[JDEV] VB jabber client

[Ulrich B. Staudinger]

Michael Pike wrote:

> You can no longer download the Microsoft JVM.... go to a fresh install 
> of XP and hit a page with a java applet... it says "click here to 
> update", and when you go to the site, it says they no longer offer it, 
> unless you get it with Visual Studio or XPSP1....  Visual Studio has 
> since stopped distributing it... and I believe XPSP's no longer have 
> it either (lucky for me I got XPSP1 when it first came out).
>
> Now Sun has their JVM.... but it is terribly unstable IMHO. 

I agree to 70%, unstable yes - the main question is: what is unstable - 
i think it's XP. on linux java runs like a dream. on 2000 all releases 
run perfect, too.

ulrich

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> mike
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>> From: "Ulrich B. Staudinger" <us at die-horde.de>
>> Reply-To: jdev at jabber.org
>> To: jdev at jabber.org
>> Subject: Re: [JDEV] VB jabber client
>> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:40:16 +0200
>>
>> Dave Belfer-Shevett wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Michael Pike wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> the problem with the Java Applet is that you would then need the JVM
>>>> installed.  Microsoft no longer supports Java, and it will be 
>>>> unavailable in
>>>> the coming months.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> What?  I'm not sure that's necessarily the case.  Microsoft has been
>>> actively trying to cripple the Java environment for years, it can be 
>>> said
>>> they never supported it.
>>>
>>> Installing the JVM runtime on a system is trivial, and every machine I
>>> know of (including Windows XP) allows a very brief "You need the java
>>> plugin to run this application, click here to get it".
>>>
>> In fact with a simple javascript you can query the JVM version, if 
>> none exists, you can automatically initate a download.
>>
>> Ulrich
>>
>>>
>>> The JVM plugin for browsers is no more or less involved than running
>>> Shockwave or Adobe Acrobat or any of the other external plugins.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>> Ulrich B. Staudinger
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>> email: us at die-horde.de
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