[JDEV] VB jabber client

[Michael Pike]

You can no longer download the Microsoft JVM.... go to a fresh install of XP 
and hit a page with a java applet... it says "click here to update", and 
when you go to the site, it says they no longer offer it, unless you get it 
with Visual Studio or XPSP1....  Visual Studio has since stopped 
distributing it... and I believe XPSP's no longer have it either (lucky for 
me I got XPSP1 when it first came out).

Now Sun has their JVM.... but it is terribly unstable IMHO.

mike



>From: "Ulrich B. Staudinger" <us at die-horde.de>
>Reply-To: jdev at jabber.org
>To: jdev at jabber.org
>Subject: Re: [JDEV] VB jabber client
>Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:40:16 +0200
>
>Dave Belfer-Shevett wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Michael Pike wrote:
>>
>>
>>>the problem with the Java Applet is that you would then need the JVM
>>>installed.  Microsoft no longer supports Java, and it will be unavailable 
>>>in
>>>the coming months.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>What?  I'm not sure that's necessarily the case.  Microsoft has been
>>actively trying to cripple the Java environment for years, it can be said
>>they never supported it.
>>
>>Installing the JVM runtime on a system is trivial, and every machine I
>>know of (including Windows XP) allows a very brief "You need the java
>>plugin to run this application, click here to get it".
>>
>In fact with a simple javascript you can query the JVM version, if none 
>exists, you can automatically initate a download.
>
>Ulrich
>
>>
>>The JVM plugin for browsers is no more or less involved than running
>>Shockwave or Adobe Acrobat or any of the other external plugins.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>--
>Ulrich B. Staudinger
>http://www.die-horde.de
>email: us at die-horde.de
>jid: uls at jabber.org
>
>
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