[JDEV] jabberd and Proxies : leave AOL alone

Fri Mar 8 04:37:28 CST 2002

It's probably not the rigt place to deal about that, but can AOL call itself
an ISP ? What they offers is an access to the web (==port 80), not to the
whole Internet, all their other services are proprietary solutions....

So, if AOL is your provider, forget about all the wonderful things the
Internet can offer...

If you find Jabber great and have AOL as ISP, the only thing to do is find
another ISP !
I think that losing clients is the only thing that can make AOL understand
that their proprietary policy is not the right one...

Stephane.

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Richard Dobson [mailto:richard at dobson-i.net]
Envoyé : vendredi 8 mars 2002 10:13
À : jdev at jabber.org
Objet : Re: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies

Well if you are using an AOL dialup connection to host a jabber server then
I think you have much greater problems to deal with anyway, also there is a
reason ISP's use such measures, so they can stop people hosting servers on
their connections when they shouldnt be in the first place, if you want to
host a server in such a situation change to an ISP that does not have the
aformentioned proxy servers.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave" <dave at dave.tj>
To: <jdev at jabber.org>
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies

> If you control your firewall, that's great.  If you're behind AOL's proxy,
> though, you really need a crutch if you want to be able to run your own
> server ;-)
>
>  - Dave
>
>
> Thomas Muldowney wrote:
> >
> > I disagree.  Jabber is another service that firewall admins should deal
> > with appropiately.  Tunnelling is a crutch and abuse of a good firewall
> > setup, and I think should be avoided.
> >
> > --temas
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 14:43, Dave wrote:
> > > Maybe we should set up some sort of HTTP-based s2s protocol?  That'll
> > > allow servers to talk to each other even when they're behind
firewalls.
> > > (HTTP-based c2s already exists.)
> > >
> > > Dave Cohen
> > >
> > >
> > > =?iso-8859-1?Q?Riviere_St=E9phane_Jean?= wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The answer is : NO
> > > >
> > > > And a proxy would only allow outgoing connection (yourServer ->
> > > > jabber.org:5269) but not the incoming one (jabber.org ->
yourServer:5269)
> > > > s2s needs 2 simultanous TCP connection to work...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > De : Rodrigo Borrego Bernabé [mailto:rb20 at tid.es]
> > > > Envoyé : mercredi 6 mars 2002 15:06
> > > > À : jdev at jabber.org
> > > > Objet : Re: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I can't open that port.
> > > > So there is no way to say a jabber server it should use a proxy
(maybe with
> > > > a tag in s2s description)?
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > >     Rodrigo
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Riviere Stéphane Jean" <Stephane.SR.Riviere at atosorigin.com>
> > > > To: <jdev at jabber.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:01 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't know if this has changed with the 1.4.2 server but it wasn't
> > > > possible with the 1.4.1.
> > > > You have to open the 5269 port on your firewall to enable s2s
> > > > communication...
> > > >
> > > > Stéphane.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > De : Rodrigo Borrego Bernabé [mailto:rb20 at tid.es]
> > > > Envoyé : mercredi 6 mars 2002 12:11
> > > > À : jdev at jabber.org
> > > > Objet : [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can a jabberd server work through a Proxy?
> > > > I mean, I have my server compiled and working. Clients can connect,
users
> > > > can talk (only users connected directly to my server), etc.
> > > >
> > > > But the server cannot find jabber.org. And it's because there's a
proxy
> > > > between my server and the Internet.
> > > > Could anybody help me? Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Rodri
> > > >
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