[jdev] XEP-0333 - Chat Markers for MUC's

Sat Sep 14 06:15:20 UTC 2019

Hi

I also implemented xep184. It works fine, but only for delivery receipts. It does not work for the 'displayed' status.

I mostley test against conversations client. Shmoose is currently able to request the chat-markers and process the answers, also from MUC's. The last remaining piece is the answering of chat-markers for the displayed status within MUC's.

Best regards 
Schorsch 

Am Freitag, 13. September 2019 schrieb Dave Cridland:
> On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 22:08, george b <scooterschorschi at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for the quick response :-).
> > I read the xep and it sounds like what I was looking for. I tried it but
> > it doesn't work within the first test. I have to investigate more what's
> > going on there.
> >
> >
> A lot of clients use XEP-0184 instead, and many ignore both entirely from
> XEP-0045 chatrooms.
> 
> 
> > Best regards
> > Schorsch
> >
> > Am Fr., 13. Sept. 2019 um 21:02 Uhr schrieb Dave Cridland <
> > dave at cridland.net>:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 19:27, george b <scooterschorschi at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>> I am struggling with chat markers in MUC's.
> >>>
> >>> In 1on1 chat, this works like expected:
> >>>
> >>> <message from="aa at jabber-germany.de/shmoose" id="
> >>> ce3f1534-ef71-4d6f-b699-661342ab4803" to="bb at jabber.de" type="chat">
> >>>
> >>> <body>body</body>
> >>>
> >>> <markable xmlns="urn:xmpp:chat-markers:0"></markable>
> >>>
> >>> </message>
> >>>
> >>> <message id="33abcee5-7784-47eb-8841-14ba3e725d30" to="aa@
> >>> jabber-germany.de" from="bb at jabber.de/shmoose">
> >>>
> >>> <displayed xmlns="urn:xmpp:chat-markers:0" id="
> >>> ce3f1534-ef71-4d6f-b699-661342ab4803"></displayed>
> >>>
> >>> </message>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> But what is the 'to' address to answer the <markable> tag on MUC's? The
> >>> endclient didn't know the real jabber ID of the requesting room member. I
> >>> tried sending the <displayed> tag to the room. Does not work. I tried to
> >>> send the <displayed> tag to the room with the members name as a resource.
> >>> Does not work.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Does someone has a hint for me here? The description in the xep 0333
> >>> does not help here (at least for me).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> There are two options:
> >>
> >> * Send the marker to the entire room (XEP-0045§7.4). This means that
> >> everyone sees when everyone reads the messages, which is a lot of
> >> information - and a lot of traffic.
> >> * Send the marker as a PM (XEP-0045§7.5). This means only the sender sees
> >> who has read their own messages - it's still a surprising amount of traffic
> >> though!
> >>
> >> Dave.
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