[jdev] XEP-0333 - Chat Markers for MUC's

Fri Sep 13 21:40:14 UTC 2019

On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 22:08, george b <scooterschorschi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the quick response :-).
> I read the xep and it sounds like what I was looking for. I tried it but
> it doesn't work within the first test. I have to investigate more what's
> going on there.
>
>
A lot of clients use XEP-0184 instead, and many ignore both entirely from
XEP-0045 chatrooms.

> Best regards
> Schorsch
>
> Am Fr., 13. Sept. 2019 um 21:02 Uhr schrieb Dave Cridland <
> dave at cridland.net>:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 19:27, george b <scooterschorschi at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I am struggling with chat markers in MUC's.
>>>
>>> In 1on1 chat, this works like expected:
>>>
>>> <message from="aa at jabber-germany.de/shmoose" id="
>>> ce3f1534-ef71-4d6f-b699-661342ab4803" to="bb at jabber.de" type="chat">
>>>
>>> <body>body</body>
>>>
>>> <markable xmlns="urn:xmpp:chat-markers:0"></markable>
>>>
>>> </message>
>>>
>>> <message id="33abcee5-7784-47eb-8841-14ba3e725d30" to="aa@
>>> jabber-germany.de" from="bb at jabber.de/shmoose">
>>>
>>> <displayed xmlns="urn:xmpp:chat-markers:0" id="
>>> ce3f1534-ef71-4d6f-b699-661342ab4803"></displayed>
>>>
>>> </message>
>>>
>>>
>>> But what is the 'to' address to answer the <markable> tag on MUC's? The
>>> endclient didn't know the real jabber ID of the requesting room member. I
>>> tried sending the <displayed> tag to the room. Does not work. I tried to
>>> send the <displayed> tag to the room with the members name as a resource.
>>> Does not work.
>>>
>>>
>>> Does someone has a hint for me here? The description in the xep 0333
>>> does not help here (at least for me).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> There are two options:
>>
>> * Send the marker to the entire room (XEP-0045§7.4). This means that
>> everyone sees when everyone reads the messages, which is a lot of
>> information - and a lot of traffic.
>> * Send the marker as a PM (XEP-0045§7.5). This means only the sender sees
>> who has read their own messages - it's still a surprising amount of traffic
>> though!
>>
>> Dave.
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