[jdev] Jabber Trademark

[Sebastiaan Deckers]

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im>wrote:

> Lastwebpage wrote:
> > maybe Coccinella goes the correct way and other clients should follow?
> >
> > I would be not surprised if some users think now "hmmh, a Jabber
> > Client, it's for Cisco Networks/Hardware?" or "Jabber incoffer a client,
> > there are no prize on this site, but is this client a replaement for
> > it?" or "It's an own protocol?" (That the client from jabber inc. use
> > XMPP and that XMPP is a "free" protocol is not very easy to find for
> > beginners on jabber.com )
>
> If Jabber Inc. is absorbed into Cisco (thus losing its independent
> identity) and www.jabber.com redirects to www.cisco.com (etc.), then I
> think this all may become less confusing, not more confusing.
>
> The term "Jabber" has always meant many things (an open-source server, a
> company, a protocol, etc.) and we've worked to disambiguate those
> meanings over time (jabberd, Jabber Inc., XMPP). If Jabber Inc. goes
> away, then one of the sources of confusion disappears. In the end,
> perhaps "Jabber" will mean nothing at all. ;-)



I wouldn't be surprised if the only reason "Jabber" has so much brand
recognition is due to the Jabber.org website and not Jabber Inc. The
Jabber.org website is the number one source people turn to when looking for
XMPP clients, servers, or libraries. Then there are these mailing lists on
the jabber.org domain and the public facing IM service.

Just as we went through the name change JSF -> XSF, would it be a good idea
to consider the domain change jabber.org -> xmpp.org?

By the way, is there any trademark registration on "XMPP"? Who owns it? What
are the licensing terms? Wouldn't want to walk into the same trap. ;-)

-Sebastiaan
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