[jdev] Presence hiccups

Adam Pisoni apisoni at geni.com
Thu Oct 2 18:16:27 CDT 2008


I'm answering all the prior messages about this.    Ideally there  
WOULD be an extension to a message wherein you could instruct the  
remote server to bounce messages for users that are not online... but  
I don't think gtalk supports that and I have no idea if they well.    
As far as probing goes, I guess you could probe if you haven't seen  
activity in a while, though I wonder whether that wouldn't be frowned  
upon by other services.  I'm not sure if its seen as outside the spec  
if you will.     We're talking about a potentially VERY large number  
of JIDs so it seems eventually you'd be constantly probing, which  
other servers might not like.

On of the prior comments was about how servers default to the next  
available resource if the one being sent to is offline.  That's not my  
problem as we are only sending to the bare JID in the first place.   
The problem is that NONE of the user's resources are online, even  
though we think there's at least one of them that is.

adam



On Oct 2, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Norman Rasmussen wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Ernest Nova <ennova2005-jabber at yahoo.com 
> > wrote:
> 3. I believe the specific remedy for your situation and of similar  
> other alerting bots would be to define an XMPP extension / message  
> attribute that would instruct the remote server to deliver a message  
> only if it thinks the user is in a certain presence state. (Whether  
> or not Gtalk will implement it is another matter).  This could be  
> part of extensions defining delivery instructions in general.
>
> XEP-0079 [1] perhaps?
>
> [1] http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0079.html
>
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