[jdev] MUC implementors poll

Heiner Wolf wolf at bluehands.de
Tue Feb 7 16:11:07 CST 2006


Hi,

I think
1. naming is important,
2. not breaking clients is more important, if the name is not visible to
    end users, as in this case.

It depends on the number of installed clients, which would break in 
either way. The number of breaking clients in turn depends on deployed 
MUCs, because that's where they fail. How many DEPLOYED MUCs use 
owner/roomconfig? I don't have numbers. Is my feeling correct, that the 
majority of clients uses mu-conference, if they use MUC at all? If yes, 
then revert to the mu-conference style.

How many and which clients have been implemented with the 1.17 change?

Interesting how many use cases a heavily used system gets: There are 
reasons to configure without user interface. For example, if you want to 
set the room to working conditions for your app. I know a client, which 
creates instant rooms, and has a "Moderate now" menu item. This client 
just sends a iq-set. Even if it would do the iq-get first, it had no 
chance to know the correct namespace without asking the user.

If you want a vote, then: +1 for revert.

hw

Peter Saint-Andre schrieb:
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> In version 1.17 of JEP-0045 (2004-10-04), the FORM_TYPEs for room
> configuration and for user registration requests were modified. This
> change was introduced late in the standards process and may not have
> been advisable (that's the same day the XMPP RFCs were published,
> perhaps I was distracted). I'd like to take a poll of those who have
> implemented JEP-0045 (either in a server or in a client). The question
> is, which of the following would you prefer:
> 
> 1. Retain the change made in 1.17, which specifies the following:
> 
>    room config: http://jabber.org/protocol/muc#roomconfig
>    registration requests: http://jabber.org/protocol/muc#register
> 
> 2. Revert to the old FORM_TYPEs:
> 
>    room config: http://jabber.org/protocol/muc#owner
>    registration requests: http://jabber.org/protocol/muc#user
> 
> Feel free to reply on or off list and I will tabulate the results.

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