[jdev] Gaim and gnomemeeting using jabber

[PUYDT Julien]

Le lundi 29 novembre 2004 à 15:07 +0000, Richard Dobson a écrit :
> Ah ok then, well I would suggest you read up more on Jabber by reading the 
> RFCs, JEPs etc

I'm in the process of doing so, but notice:
1. There's much to read ;
2. There are JEPs that say they are obsolete, but don't say what
obsoletes them!

>  before diving in and hacking away otherwise you will risk 
> wasting your efforts as you seem to have by creating solutions to problems 
> that have already been solved,


>  or simply not following the protocol 
> standards

This is mostly what I want to avoid.

>  and again wasting your time and effort, i.e. you created an 
> illegal extension to presence (illegal because it is not namespaced),

Obviously I wouldn't ask if I had thought it was ok.

>  and its dubious anyway because the extension you are trying to create does not 
> seem to relate to presence and thus should not even be there in the first 
> place.

Well, the patch I made for gaim is simple: you set an uri in your
preferences, and it gets sent with your presence. So if you look at it
this way, it's not dubious: it's just wrong. But if you consider the
grand scheme of having the voip client able to notify that you're
already on a call, or in do-not-disturb mode ; then really that's
presence, and it's not so dubious.

So in short: it really is presence, even if the sample implementation I
have doesn't make it clear.

> So what I would suggest as your first step is read and try to understand the 
> protocol layed out in the RFCs and the JEPs, and before you go creating 
> anything new double check the JEPs/RFCs to see if what you are trying to do 
> has already been done or not, if it is at the development stages I would 
> suggest contacting the author of the JEPs in question and providing your 
> feedback on it to try and help out.

I don't really want to develop on jabber ; I just want to be able to use
it, and probably needs advice on this.

JP