[JDEV] Poll about who will use Jabber when Trillian comes out

[Adrian Rapa]

maybe we need to discuss this on jabber... make a brainstorm it would be
easyer than email... so what about a conference?

Adrian Rapa

Pe Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:05:05 -0700
"Shane Knysh" <shane.knysh at yoner.com> a scris:

> Greetings!
> 
> I have to agree, the jabber.org site is not for a new user. I have a
> couple of frineds that are willing to try jabber, and I sent them to
> jabber.org. One is a fairly computer literate, the other is just an
> average user.
> 
> Their responses:
> "Do I have to download a server first? I don't think I want to run a
> server on my machine." and 
> "Where do I download the IM from?"
> 
> I think we need to make the following changes to assist in making
> jabber an easier selection for the average user:
> 1. We need to get the clients more to the front of things, and need to
> have an easier mechanism for the average user to get the client
> download and install. Perhaps a new star on the client list
> representing 'new to jabber friendly'. 
> 
> 2. The jabber user guide should have a "migration from" section for
> the major IM clients.
> 
> 3. The server list need to have more info in the chart and less in the
> tool tip. its all well and good to have the star indicating special
> services, it would be better to have the services listed on the page.
> The link for the server name should either be removed or link
> somewhere other than the public server list. Maybe a serach interface
> where you can select the services you want and then have the servers
> that support all your requests displayed. Development servers should
> be listed on a seperate list.
> 
> I have been trying to get people to migrate to jabber for over a year
> and I have to say the migration process is not hard, the selling
> process is a killer. 
> 
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:18:44 -0500, jdev-request wrote
> > --__--__--
> > 
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:55:35 +0200
> > From: Bart van Bragt <jabber at vanbragt.com>
> > To: jdev at jabber.org
> > Subject: Re: [JDEV] Poll about who will use Jabber when Trillian
> > comes out Reply-To: jdev at jabber.org
> > 
> > > as Trillian Pro will support Jabber through a plugin, I was
> > > wondering who is already using Jabber and who will use it. So I
> > > started a little poll on the Trillian forum, might be of interest:
> > > http://www.ceruleanstudios.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=38517
> > > 
> > 
> > I would like to reitterate the question I asked on the marketing-jig
> > list a week ago: Do we think the current jabber.org site is
> > sufficient for the sudden increase in complete noobs :D
> > 
> > IMO: No. The jabber site contains too much technobabble, information
> > to get started is too dispersed or you need to read way too much.
> > IMO people just want to get started as fast as possible and they'll
> > come back if they want extra info... My proposal: A quickstart guide
> > for endusers that uses a few lines to tell how great Jabber really
> > is and then it gives the user a few steps they'll have to take to
> > get started.
> > 
> > But I could be wrong I guess. Maybe the current site is already OK
> > and am I just underestimating the average Joe...
> > 
> > -- 
> > Bart van Bragt
> > 
> 
> Shane
> shane.knysh at YonerDotCom
> "I think we can all agree on one thing: 'The Moos of Derision' would
> be a good name for a rock band."-Dave Barry
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