[JDEV] Jabber Client Compliance

[Julian Missig]

Right. Everyone's being real slow about the whole compliance thing. 
This is years later and we don't have it yet. So I'm just going to set 
up a project on JabberStudio and *anyone* who wants to can submit bugs 
and have them listed. Then people can argue about it in the bug 
comments, and the maintainer of the project (currently me) can decide 
what to do.

So, this allows:
a) anyone who wants to can submit a compliance issue with a client that 
they feel the Jabber Community as a whole needs to see (especially if 
it's something major or the client author is being slow about it)
b) the Jabber Community has one quick place to look to see if other 
clients are acting funny or if they're doing something wrong
c) Jabber Community has at least another place to look to help them 
decide which clients they want to use

if/when the official compliance group gets their act together, I'll 
gladly hand this stuff over to them. Since no one seems to have any 
better ideas and no one seems to have the ball rolling, I'll just do 
what I described.

This is *very* informal, but until someone has something better, I 
think it works for what I want. (A place to bitch about clients being 
bad)

Julian


On Wednesday, Aug 6, 2003, at 18:21 US/Eastern, Iain shigeoka wrote:

>
> On Wednesday, Aug 6, 2003, at 11:10 US/Pacific, Julian Missig wrote:
>
>> I'm getting really sick of looking at my roster and seeing things 
>> like <presence from="some at jid" 
>> to="julian at jabber.org"><show>normal</show></presence>
>
> :)
>
>> I know that Jabber Compliance Testing is one of those things that 
>> people keep talking about doing and saying we will do someday, etc, 
>> etc., but I'd like to propose that we start doing this stuff *now*.
>
> The JSF is working on compliance although right now it is in quiet 
> development and and the first compliance testing target is servers not 
> clients. Client testing ends up being a lot harder than server testing 
> so we punted and went for servers. I definitely agree there is need 
> for client compliance testing. I've Cc'd the compliance-jig@ list and 
> I'd love to have you follow up there. We have a jabbercollab project 
> setup for compliance already if you're interested in joining the team, 
> let me know. You can always sub to the compliance-jig list to get the 
> discussion going. If we start creating code then perhaps a 
> jabberstudio project would be needed.
>
> The JSF is eager to get client compliance testing underway but simply 
> don't have the resources to do it (primarily people's time - we can 
> get funding if there is things that need funding).
>
> -iain
>
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