[JDEV] Jabber Client Compliance

Richard Dobson richard at dobson-i.net
Wed Aug 6 13:41:32 CDT 2003


Yes AFAIK online is simply represented as a lack of a show element on an
online presence e.g.

<presence from="some at jid" to="me at jid"/>

or

<presence from="some at jid" to="me at jid">
    <status>I am online</status>
</presence>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Julian Missig" <julian at jabber.org>
To: <jdev at jabber.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JDEV] Jabber Client Compliance


> Actually, looking at the XMPP spec, <show>online</show> isn't even
> valid. Ok. <show>normal</show> wasn't even used in Jabber prior to
> XMPP, so clients shouldn't start using that now.
>
> Julian
>
> On Wednesday, Aug 6, 2003, at 14:10 US/Eastern, Julian Missig wrote:
>
> > I'm getting really sick of looking at my roster and seeing things like
> > <presence from="some at jid"
> > to="julian at jabber.org"><show>normal</show></presence>
> >
> > <show>normal</show> is not compliant with Jabber or XMPP--"normal" is
> > not a valid type. It's "online"--it always has been "online".
> >
> > I know that Jabber Compliance Testing is one of those things that
> > people keep talking about doing and saying we will do someday, etc,
> > etc., but I'd like to propose that we start doing this stuff *now*.
> >
> > I propose that I set up a "Jabber Client Compliance" project on
> > jabberstudio.org. I'll set up a Component for each client people
> > report protocol compliance issues with. "Bugs" would be a list of
> > *errors* in protocol compliance. "Feature requests" would be a list of
> > areas in which clients are completely lacking protocol support that
> > they should have. This requires very little work on my part, and
> > little work on the part of people who find protocol compliance errors.
> > We then have an easy system to add comments, etc, etc. All you have to
> > do is point the client author at the bug. If you find a protocol error
> > in the client, you can report it. When it's fixed, it can be marked
> > completed. The Jabber community will then have a running list of
> > clients which are not compliant.
> >
> > What do people think? Good idea? Or should I wait for people to build
> > up a real system?
> >
> > Julian
> >
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