[JDEV] integrity messenger questions
Sameer Verma
sverma at sfsu.edu
Wed Oct 30 14:49:25 CST 2002
Dave wrote:
>Oh ... hmm ... I thought the bot folks had just _gotten_ the patent. . .
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> - Dave
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Before they get a claim, copyright or patent, etc. they sorely need
spellchecking and grammar software. ;-) ...unless they have applied a
patent for words like "*collaberate*". It makes an amusing read. :-)
Sameer
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Sameer Verma, Ph.D.
Asst. Professor of Information Systems
San Francisco State University
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>On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:42:01AM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
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>>IIRC, the bot folks applied for a patent. There's a big difference between
>>applying and receiving. :)
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>>Peter
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>>Peter Saint-Andre
>>Jabber Software Foundation
>>http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.php
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>>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Dave wrote:
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>>>Well, if prior art didn't prevent that bot buddy company from getting
>>>patents on IM bots, what's to make us think Integrity Messenger won't
>>>be able to patent IM itself?
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>>>A tad paranoid, and borderline delusional,
>>> - Dave
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>>>On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:22:44PM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
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>>>>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Tijl Houtbeckers wrote:
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>>>>>And don't forget this part of their website:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.integritymessenger.com/about.php
>>>>>
>>>>>quote:
>>>>>"
>>>>>It is that desire that has propelled Integrity Messenger to strive for
>>>>>excellence, and achieve industry first technologies never before seen
>>>>>in an Instant Messaging solution. **Many of the technologies within the
>>>>>Integrity Messenger are presently being filed for patent.** (my
>>>>>emphasis)
>>>>>
>>>>>Integrity Messenger would like to thank The Jabber Foundation at this
>>>>>time for allowing us to temporarily infrastructure our software on
>>>>>their server solution while we prepare to launch our own XML/SIP based
>>>>>server. Special thanks to David (the Founder) and Peter for their
>>>>>invitation to join their network."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Note that they consider Dave Smith to be the "Founder" of Jabber. I had
>>>>several long telephone conversations with these folks, and Dave joined me
>>>>on one of them. Somehow they got the notion that he founded Jabber. Not
>>>>sure how, though.
>>>>
>>>>While I don't seek to minimize Justin's pain in dealing with these people,
>>>>I think it's important to understand that they are not a major threat to
>>>>the Jabber community. My strong impression from talking with them is that
>>>>they were incompetent, paranoid, and borderline delusional. Whether they
>>>>lack basic moral scruples or just don't know what they are doing, I'm not
>>>>sure (I tend toward the former but I like to give people the benefit of
>>>>the doubt). But I can tell you that their supposed patent applications
>>>>will not be successful if they are attempting to patent things related to
>>>>or based on Jabber -- the Jabber community possesses evidence of prior art
>>>>going back to at least the summer of 1999, and Integrity Messenger is a
>>>>much more recent creation.
>>>>
>>>>Peter
>>>>
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>>>>Peter Saint-Andre
>>>>Jabber Software Foundation
>>>>http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.php
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