[JDEV] integrity messenger questions

[Dave]

Oh ... hmm ... I thought the bot folks had just _gotten_ the patent. . .

 - Dave


On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:42:01AM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> IIRC, the bot folks applied for a patent. There's a big difference between
> applying and receiving. :)
> 
> Peter
> 
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> Peter Saint-Andre
> Jabber Software Foundation
> http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.php
> 
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Dave wrote:
> 
> > Well, if prior art didn't prevent that bot buddy company from getting
> > patents on IM bots, what's to make us think Integrity Messenger won't
> > be able to patent IM itself?
> > 
> > A tad paranoid, and borderline delusional,
> >  - Dave
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:22:44PM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Tijl Houtbeckers wrote:
> > > 
> > > > And don't forget this part of their website:
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.integritymessenger.com/about.php
> > > > 
> > > > quote:
> > > > "
> > > > It is that desire that has propelled Integrity Messenger to strive for 
> > > > excellence, and achieve industry first technologies never before seen 
> > > > in an Instant Messaging solution. **Many of the technologies within the 
> > > > Integrity Messenger are presently being filed for patent.** (my 
> > > > emphasis) 
> > > > 
> > > > Integrity Messenger would like to thank The Jabber Foundation at this 
> > > > time for allowing us to temporarily infrastructure our software on 
> > > > their server solution while we prepare to launch our own XML/SIP based 
> > > > server. Special thanks to David (the Founder) and Peter for their 
> > > > invitation to join their network." 
> > > 
> > > Note that they consider Dave Smith to be the "Founder" of Jabber. I had
> > > several long telephone conversations with these folks, and Dave joined me
> > > on one of them. Somehow they got the notion that he founded Jabber. Not
> > > sure how, though.
> > > 
> > > While I don't seek to minimize Justin's pain in dealing with these people,
> > > I think it's important to understand that they are not a major threat to
> > > the Jabber community. My strong impression from talking with them is that
> > > they were incompetent, paranoid, and borderline delusional. Whether they
> > > lack basic moral scruples or just don't know what they are doing, I'm not
> > > sure (I tend toward the former but I like to give people the benefit of
> > > the doubt). But I can tell you that their supposed patent applications
> > > will not be successful if they are attempting to patent things related to
> > > or based on Jabber -- the Jabber community possesses evidence of prior art
> > > going back to at least the summer of 1999, and Integrity Messenger is a
> > > much more recent creation.
> > > 
> > > Peter
> > > 
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