[JDEV] RE: jdev digest, Vol 1 #1300 - 2 msgs

Dong Yan dong.yan at reuters.com
Fri Mar 8 17:03:19 CST 2002


Temas,

Thank you for your reply. Yes, I configured the jabberd to accept scm on
port 5555 (not 5222 since 5222 is used by jabberd).

 In fact, the scm works fine with JCP but not the open source version 1.4.2.
Besides the scm problem, I cannot register a user to the open source (1.4.2)
either. Do I need to do something special or add some extra component to
make the 1.4.2 jabberd work? 

Really appreciate your help!

-Don


Subject: Re: [JDEV] question on scm
From: Thomas Muldowney <temas at box5.net>
To: jdev at jabber.org
Date: 08 Mar 2002 13:47:05 -0600
Reply-To: jdev at jabber.org

Did you really configure the jabberd to accept scm on port 5222 with the
password guess?  Seems unlikely to me.  Check the README for
configuration.

--temas


On Fri, 2002-03-08 at 12:46, Dong Yan wrote:
> Hi,
>  
>    I installed a Jabberd router (open source 1.4.2) on my linux machine
> (redhat 7.2). I
>  download scm and installed in the same machine.
>    I first started the jabberd, then I tried to start scm by typing:
>           ./scm 127.0.0.1 5222 1 scm guess
>      then I received the following error messages:
>           Router connection in error -- exiting
>           scm: Application.cpp:93: static void
>  bedrock::Application::stop(int, const std::string&): Assertion
>  '_app_instance_started == true' failed.
>  
>  Any suggestions on how to fix it?
>  
>  Thanks,
>  Don
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jdev-request at jabber.org [mailto:jdev-request at jabber.org]
> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 2:44 AM
> To: jdev at jabber.org
> Subject: jdev digest, Vol 1 #1297 - 11 msgs
> 
> 
> Send jdev mailing list submissions to
> 	jdev at jabber.org
> 
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> 	http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> 	jdev-request at jabber.org
> 
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> 	jdev-admin at jabber.org
> 
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of jdev digest..."
> 
> 
> Today's Topics:
> 
>    1. Re: Jabber Transports - New Architecture (Peter Saint-Andre)
>    2. Re: Yahoo With Jabber (Peter Saint-Andre)
>    3. Re: jabberd and Proxies (Dave)
>    4. RE: Yahoo With Jabber (Riyaad Miller)
>    5. Re: Jabber Transports - New Architecture (James Widman)
>    6. Re: Yahoo With Jabber (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rodrigo_Borrego_Bernab=E9?=)
>    7. JECL and Address resolution (Piers Harding)
>    8. Re: question on running ECHO component (Piers Harding)
>    9. Re: jabberd and Proxies (Richard Dobson)
>   10. RE: Docs on the XDB element ?
> (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Riviere_St=E9phane_Jean?=)
>   11. RE: jabberd and Proxies : leave AOL alone
> (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Riviere_St=E9phane_Jean?=)
> 
> -- __--__-- 
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 22:40:17 -0600 (CST)
> From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at jabber.org>
> To: jdev at jabber.org
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] Jabber Transports - New Architecture
> Reply-To: jdev at jabber.org
> 
> On 7 Mar 2002, Julian Missig wrote:
> 
> > The transports were created to ease the transition to Jabber.
> 
> This to me is the most interesting point. What *else* can we do to ease
> the transition? Given the recent changes by Yahoo and the fact that MSN
> could change its protocol tomorrow on a whim (I won't even mention AOL), I
> feel it's becoming obvious that the only way Jabber will have any impact
> in the IM world is to grow fast enough and big enough that other IM
> systems have to sit up and take notice. So what do we need to do in order
> to grow that fast and become that ubiquitous?
> 
> Here's a short list:
> 
> 1. Killer clients for Windows and Mac (face it, not everyone runs Linux ;)
> 
> 2. Easier server administration to penetrate more organizations and ISPs
> 
> 3. Windows server (see points 1 and 2)
> 
> 4. Even better security
> 
> 5. Reliable file transfers
> 
> 6. Other popular features (even emoticon images, much as I dislike 'em)
> 
> I know people want immediate gratification and interoperability now, but I
> say screw the transports -- let's build a truly open IM network, not spend
> our precious energy hacking up gateways to closed systems.
> 
> Peter
> 
> --
> Peter Saint-Andre
> email+jabber: stpeter at jabber.org
> weblog: http://www.saint-andre.com/blog/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- __--__-- 
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 22:42:02 -0600 (CST)
> From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at jabber.org>
> To: "jdev at jabber.org" <jdev at jabber.org>
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] Yahoo With Jabber
> Reply-To: jdev at jabber.org
> 
> > Matthias Wimmer was kind enough to update the Yahoo tranport, which
> > appears to be abandoned (sorry if I am wrong about this and offended
> > the maintainer, but I have not noticed any updates in awhile).
> 
> Yes, it is abandoned.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> -- __--__-- 
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 00:04:34 -0500 (EST)
> From: Dave <dave at dave.tj>
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies
> To: jdev at jabber.org
> Reply-To: jdev at jabber.org
> 
> If you control your firewall, that's great.  If you're behind AOL's proxy,
> though, you really need a crutch if you want to be able to run your own
> server ;-)
> 
>  - Dave
> 
> 
> Thomas Muldowney wrote:
> > 
> > I disagree.  Jabber is another service that firewall admins should deal
> > with appropiately.  Tunnelling is a crutch and abuse of a good firewall
> > setup, and I think should be avoided.
> > 
> > --temas
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 14:43, Dave wrote:
> > > Maybe we should set up some sort of HTTP-based s2s protocol?  That'll
> > > allow servers to talk to each other even when they're behind
firewalls.
> > > (HTTP-based c2s already exists.)
> > > 
> > > Dave Cohen
> > > 
> > > 
> > > =?iso-8859-1?Q?Riviere_St=E9phane_Jean?= wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > The answer is : NO
> > > > 
> > > > And a proxy would only allow outgoing connection (yourServer ->
> > > > jabber.org:5269) but not the incoming one (jabber.org ->
> yourServer:5269)
> > > > s2s needs 2 simultanous TCP connection to work...
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > De : Rodrigo Borrego Bernabé [mailto:rb20 at tid.es]
> > > > Envoyé : mercredi 6 mars 2002 15:06
> > > > À : jdev at jabber.org
> > > > Objet : Re: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I can't open that port.
> > > > So there is no way to say a jabber server it should use a proxy
(maybe
> with
> > > > a tag in s2s description)?
> > > > 
> > > > TIA
> > > >     Rodrigo
> > > > 
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Riviere Stéphane Jean" <Stephane.SR.Riviere at atosorigin.com>
> > > > To: <jdev at jabber.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:01 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I don't know if this has changed with the 1.4.2 server but it wasn't
> > > > possible with the 1.4.1.
> > > > You have to open the 5269 port on your firewall to enable s2s
> > > > communication...
> > > > 
> > > > Stéphane.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > De : Rodrigo Borrego Bernabé [mailto:rb20 at tid.es]
> > > > Envoyé : mercredi 6 mars 2002 12:11
> > > > À : jdev at jabber.org
> > > > Objet : [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Can a jabberd server work through a Proxy?
> > > > I mean, I have my server compiled and working. Clients can connect,
> users
> > > > can talk (only users connected directly to my server), etc.
> > > > 
> > > > But the server cannot find jabber.org. And it's because there's a
> proxy
> > > > between my server and the Internet.
> > > > Could anybody help me? Thanks.
> > > > 
> > > > Rodri
> > > > 
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > jdev mailing list
> > > > jdev at jabber.org
> > > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > jdev mailing list
> > > > jdev at jabber.org
> > > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> > > > 
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > jdev mailing list
> > > > jdev at jabber.org
> > > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > jdev mailing list
> > > > jdev at jabber.org
> > > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > jdev mailing list
> > > jdev at jabber.org
> > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > jdev mailing list
> > jdev at jabber.org
> > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> > 
> 
> 
> -- __--__-- 
> 
> Message: 4
> Subject: RE: [JDEV] Yahoo With Jabber
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:00:49 +0200
> From: "Riyaad Miller" <RMiller at mweb.com>
> To: <jdev at jabber.org>
> Reply-To: jdev at jabber.org
> 
> I've actually triedusing the transport mentioned is the link below
> ...followed the setup and readme and all
> No such luck .... :-(
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Porter [mailto:matthew at linjafoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:54 PM
> To: jdev at jabber.org
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] Yahoo With Jabber
> 
> 
> Ajay:
>   I would try using the Yahoo! transport available at
> http://amessage.de/patches/ rather than the one on the Jabber websites.
> Matthias Wimmer was kind enough to update the Yahoo tranport, which
> appears to be abandoned (sorry if I am wrong about this and offended
> the maintainer, but I have not noticed any updates in awhile).
> 
> 
> 
> -matthew porter
> 
> 
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Ajay Garg wrote:
> 
> > i did whatever is wriiten on the website but i am still not able to
> > make Yahoo work with my Jabber Server. Can someone please help me. I
> > can send the Jabber log if required.
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Ajay
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email!
> > http://mail.yahoo.com/
> > _______________________________________________
> > jdev mailing list
> > jdev at jabber.org
> > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> jdev mailing list
> jdev at jabber.org
> http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
>  
> Give your child an unfair advantage with M-Web Learning.  To join, call
> 08600 32 000 or go to http://join.mweb.co.za
> 
> M-Web – just like that
> 
> -- __--__-- 
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 01:08:28 -0600
> From: James Widman <j-widman at cornellcollege.edu>
> To: jdev at jabber.org
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] Jabber Transports - New Architecture
> Reply-To: jdev at jabber.org
> 
> /me nods to the three previous replies.
> 
> The concept of null clients also gets raised during conversations like 
> this.  That's a nice idea too, but not really necessary.
> 
> This is all you have to do:  
> 
> 1) If jabberd and the transports you want aren't known to work on your 
> platform, port them.
> 2) Configure jabberd so that the server's host name is localhost, and 
> transports are running at aim.localhost, msn.localhost, etc.
> (I tested this part out and it works for me; contrary to the *current* 
> server howto, you don't need a Fully Qualified Domain Name to get 
> transport services like aim-t and msn-t working; you just need the 
> client to be on the same machine as the server if it's not an FQDN).
> 3) Use your client to log into localhost and register with the 
> transports from there.  
>    
>     The drawback here is that you at localhost cannot send messages to 
> me at jabber.org.   However, one feature that's been requested for clients 
> is the ability to be logged into multiple jabber accounts 
> simultaneously.   As time goes on, this will probably become a pretty 
> common feature, especially as jabber becomes more popular and more 
> people request it (actually, if it's ok with Julian, and if enough 
> people email me in support of it, I'd be happy to work this into 
> Gabber).  If and when it becomes a common feature, it could make a lot 
> of sense to put together a jabberd package which is optimized for use by 
> a small number of users and comes with the most popular inter-IM system 
> transports.  Would that help to ease the transition for end users?
> 
>    There's only one problem I can spot with a configuration like this: 
>  the roster info for the localhost account will not follow you around 
> from one device to another.  The user would have to manually do an 
> export/import.  But there might be a clean way around this (if we're 
> going to have multiple accounts managed by one client, we might want a 
> clean way to store roster info on what the user designates as a 
> "primary" account anyway -- but *please* correct me if I'm wrong).
> 
> --James
> 
> 
> -- __--__-- 
> 
> Message: 6
> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rodrigo_Borrego_Bernab=E9?= <rb20 at tid.es>
> To: <jdev at jabber.org>
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] Yahoo With Jabber
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:40:34 +0100
> Reply-To: jdev at jabber.org
> 
> Thank you and Peter for your help.
> 
> Rodri
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Riviere Stéphane Jean" <Stephane.SR.Riviere at atosorigin.com>
> --- For libyahoo : [...]
> 
> 
> -- __--__-- 
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:57:42 +0000
> From: Piers Harding <piers at ompa.net>
> To: jdev at jabber.org
> Subject: [JDEV] JECL and Address resolution
> Reply-To: jdev at jabber.org
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I have just upgraded to the latest version of the JECL ( as found on
> jabberstudio ), and noticed something different about how it opperates.
> 
> Previous I used to be able to use the name "localhost" for the server that
> my components connected to, but now I am forced to use the IP address
> 127.0.0.1.  I have traced this down to the Address Resolution phase in
> bedrock Socket.cpp ( approx. line 123 ).
> 
> - I'm using RH7.2 gcc3.0.1.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> Piers Harding.
> 
> -- __--__-- 
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 08:00:16 +0000
> From: Piers Harding <piers at ompa.net>
> To: jdev at jabber.org
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] question on running ECHO component
> Reply-To: jdev at jabber.org
> 
> Hi - what is your build platform and where did you get your JECL source
from
> ( jabberstudio or tigris.jabber.org ) ?
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 02:35:25PM -0800, Dong Yan wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> >   I am new at Jabber and really appreciate your help. I installed a
Jabber
> > router in my linux machine and installed an echo program (as an
> application,
> > example of JECL) in the same machine.
> > 
> >   When I run the echo program, I always get the following message,
> > 
> >     Router error occurred.
> >     Router is now connected.
> >     Router is now disconnected.
> > 
> >  It seems to me something is wrong because of the  error message at the
> > first line. Any suggestions on how to fix it?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Don 
> > _______________________________________________
> > jdev mailing list
> > jdev at jabber.org
> > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> 
> -- __--__-- 
> 
> Message: 9
> From: "Richard Dobson" <richard at dobson-i.net>
> To: <jdev at jabber.org>
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:13:15 -0000
> Reply-To: jdev at jabber.org
> 
> Well if you are using an AOL dialup connection to host a jabber server
then
> I think you have much greater problems to deal with anyway, also there is
a
> reason ISP's use such measures, so they can stop people hosting servers on
> their connections when they shouldnt be in the first place, if you want to
> host a server in such a situation change to an ISP that does not have the
> aformentioned proxy servers.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave" <dave at dave.tj>
> To: <jdev at jabber.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 5:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies
> 
> 
> > If you control your firewall, that's great.  If you're behind AOL's
proxy,
> > though, you really need a crutch if you want to be able to run your own
> > server ;-)
> >
> >  - Dave
> >
> >
> > Thomas Muldowney wrote:
> > >
> > > I disagree.  Jabber is another service that firewall admins should
deal
> > > with appropiately.  Tunnelling is a crutch and abuse of a good
firewall
> > > setup, and I think should be avoided.
> > >
> > > --temas
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 14:43, Dave wrote:
> > > > Maybe we should set up some sort of HTTP-based s2s protocol?
That'll
> > > > allow servers to talk to each other even when they're behind
> firewalls.
> > > > (HTTP-based c2s already exists.)
> > > >
> > > > Dave Cohen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > =?iso-8859-1?Q?Riviere_St=E9phane_Jean?= wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The answer is : NO
> > > > >
> > > > > And a proxy would only allow outgoing connection (yourServer ->
> > > > > jabber.org:5269) but not the incoming one (jabber.org ->
> yourServer:5269)
> > > > > s2s needs 2 simultanous TCP connection to work...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > > De : Rodrigo Borrego Bernabé [mailto:rb20 at tid.es]
> > > > > Envoyé : mercredi 6 mars 2002 15:06
> > > > > À : jdev at jabber.org
> > > > > Objet : Re: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I can't open that port.
> > > > > So there is no way to say a jabber server it should use a proxy
> (maybe with
> > > > > a tag in s2s description)?
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA
> > > > >     Rodrigo
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Riviere Stéphane Jean"
<Stephane.SR.Riviere at atosorigin.com>
> > > > > To: <jdev at jabber.org>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:01 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know if this has changed with the 1.4.2 server but it
wasn't
> > > > > possible with the 1.4.1.
> > > > > You have to open the 5269 port on your firewall to enable s2s
> > > > > communication...
> > > > >
> > > > > Stéphane.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > > De : Rodrigo Borrego Bernabé [mailto:rb20 at tid.es]
> > > > > Envoyé : mercredi 6 mars 2002 12:11
> > > > > À : jdev at jabber.org
> > > > > Objet : [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Can a jabberd server work through a Proxy?
> > > > > I mean, I have my server compiled and working. Clients can
connect,
> users
> > > > > can talk (only users connected directly to my server), etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > But the server cannot find jabber.org. And it's because there's a
> proxy
> > > > > between my server and the Internet.
> > > > > Could anybody help me? Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rodri
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > jdev mailing list
> > > > > jdev at jabber.org
> > > > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > jdev mailing list
> > > > > jdev at jabber.org
> > > > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > jdev mailing list
> > > > > jdev at jabber.org
> > > > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > jdev mailing list
> > > > > jdev at jabber.org
> > > > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > jdev mailing list
> > > > jdev at jabber.org
> > > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > jdev mailing list
> > > jdev at jabber.org
> > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > jdev mailing list
> > jdev at jabber.org
> > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- __--__-- 
> 
> Message: 10
> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Riviere_St=E9phane_Jean?=
> 	 <Stephane.SR.Riviere at atosorigin.com>
> To: "'jdev at jabber.org'" <jdev at jabber.org>
> Subject: RE: [JDEV] Docs on the XDB element ?
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:26:15 +0100 
> Reply-To: jdev at jabber.org
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> If anyone else is interested, I've written a working accept component
using
> Launcher.java.
> 
> I had to make some changes to make the thing work...
> -> modify the main() of the Launcher to initialize all the launcher
> properties
> -> correct a few bugs in the ConnectionBean (pb with the
> DisableAutoHeader...)
> 
> If others are interested, we can discuss of that here, but I think this
> should be discussed OOB, to not disturb C developers with Java problems
;-)
> 
> 
> Stephane.
> 
> 
>      ------------------------------------------
>      email : Stephane.sr.Riviere at atosorigin.com
>      tél : (0)3.20.60.77.14
> 
>      Ingénieur R&D
>      Equipe Grands Projets
>      Direction Recherche & Développement
>      ATOS ORIGIN Activité Multimédia
>      http://www.atosorigin.com
> 
> 
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : philippe.raxhon at mrlinternational.com
> [mailto:philippe.raxhon at mrlinternational.com]
> Envoyé : jeudi 7 mars 2002 20:38
> À : jdev at jabber.org
> Objet : Re: [JDEV] Docs on the XDB element ?
> 
> 
> You should take a look at the slides DJ Adams has posted from his talk at
> FOSDEM.
> 
> http://www.pipetree.com/~dj/fosdem2002/
> 
> I'm also playing with java component based on jabberbeans. Did you try to
> write an accept component based on Launcher.java? It's not working for me
> but I'm about to fix that.
> 
> Philippe Raxhon
> raxhonp at iname.com
> 
> Riviere Stéphane Jean wrote:
>      Hi,
> 
>      I'm currently developing external server components (in Java) and
need
>      to
>      store/retrieve some information about the component, registered
>      clients....
> 
>      This can be done using the <XBD/> element, but I didn't find much
>      information but this :
>      http://docs.jabber.org/general/html/component-intro.html
> 
>      Does further documentation about XDB exist or will I have to make
>      personal
>      tests to find how it works ?
> 
>      Thanks for your help,
> 
>      Stéphane.
> 
> 
>      [ For those who are interested on my configuration :
>      - jabberd 1.4.1 with Conferencing / JUD / MSN Transport / Weather
>      service
>      ;-)
>      - server is an old P2 300MHz / 92MB RAM running a RedHat 6.2
>      - external components are developed in Java with jabberbeans latest
>      CVS
>      sources
>      ]
> 
>      ------------------------------------------
>      email : Stephane.sr.Riviere at atosorigin.com
>      tél : (0)3.20.60.77.14
> 
>      Ingénieur R&D
>      Equipe Grands Projets
>      Direction Recherche & Développement
>      ATOS ORIGIN Activité Multimédia
>      http://www.atosorigin.com
>      _______________________________________________
> 
> 
> -- __--__-- 
> 
> Message: 11
> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Riviere_St=E9phane_Jean?=
> 	 <Stephane.SR.Riviere at atosorigin.com>
> To: "'jdev at jabber.org'" <jdev at jabber.org>
> Subject: RE: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies : leave AOL alone
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:37:28 +0100 
> Reply-To: jdev at jabber.org
> 
> It's probably not the rigt place to deal about that, but can AOL call
itself
> an ISP ? What they offers is an access to the web (==port 80), not to the
> whole Internet, all their other services are proprietary solutions....
> 
> So, if AOL is your provider, forget about all the wonderful things the
> Internet can offer...
> 
> 
> If you find Jabber great and have AOL as ISP, the only thing to do is find
> another ISP !
> I think that losing clients is the only thing that can make AOL understand
> that their proprietary policy is not the right one...
> 
> 
> 
> Stephane.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Richard Dobson [mailto:richard at dobson-i.net]
> Envoyé : vendredi 8 mars 2002 10:13
> À : jdev at jabber.org
> Objet : Re: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies
> 
> 
> Well if you are using an AOL dialup connection to host a jabber server
then
> I think you have much greater problems to deal with anyway, also there is
a
> reason ISP's use such measures, so they can stop people hosting servers on
> their connections when they shouldnt be in the first place, if you want to
> host a server in such a situation change to an ISP that does not have the
> aformentioned proxy servers.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave" <dave at dave.tj>
> To: <jdev at jabber.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 5:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies
> 
> 
> > If you control your firewall, that's great.  If you're behind AOL's
proxy,
> > though, you really need a crutch if you want to be able to run your own
> > server ;-)
> >
> >  - Dave
> >
> >
> > Thomas Muldowney wrote:
> > >
> > > I disagree.  Jabber is another service that firewall admins should
deal
> > > with appropiately.  Tunnelling is a crutch and abuse of a good
firewall
> > > setup, and I think should be avoided.
> > >
> > > --temas
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 14:43, Dave wrote:
> > > > Maybe we should set up some sort of HTTP-based s2s protocol?
That'll
> > > > allow servers to talk to each other even when they're behind
> firewalls.
> > > > (HTTP-based c2s already exists.)
> > > >
> > > > Dave Cohen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > =?iso-8859-1?Q?Riviere_St=E9phane_Jean?= wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The answer is : NO
> > > > >
> > > > > And a proxy would only allow outgoing connection (yourServer ->
> > > > > jabber.org:5269) but not the incoming one (jabber.org ->
> yourServer:5269)
> > > > > s2s needs 2 simultanous TCP connection to work...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > > De : Rodrigo Borrego Bernabé [mailto:rb20 at tid.es]
> > > > > Envoyé : mercredi 6 mars 2002 15:06
> > > > > À : jdev at jabber.org
> > > > > Objet : Re: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I can't open that port.
> > > > > So there is no way to say a jabber server it should use a proxy
> (maybe with
> > > > > a tag in s2s description)?
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA
> > > > >     Rodrigo
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Riviere Stéphane Jean"
<Stephane.SR.Riviere at atosorigin.com>
> > > > > To: <jdev at jabber.org>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 2:01 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know if this has changed with the 1.4.2 server but it
wasn't
> > > > > possible with the 1.4.1.
> > > > > You have to open the 5269 port on your firewall to enable s2s
> > > > > communication...
> > > > >
> > > > > Stéphane.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > > De : Rodrigo Borrego Bernabé [mailto:rb20 at tid.es]
> > > > > Envoyé : mercredi 6 mars 2002 12:11
> > > > > À : jdev at jabber.org
> > > > > Objet : [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Can a jabberd server work through a Proxy?
> > > > > I mean, I have my server compiled and working. Clients can
connect,
> users
> > > > > can talk (only users connected directly to my server), etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > But the server cannot find jabber.org. And it's because there's a
> proxy
> > > > > between my server and the Internet.
> > > > > Could anybody help me? Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rodri
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > jdev mailing list
> > > > > jdev at jabber.org
> > > > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > jdev mailing list
> > > > > jdev at jabber.org
> > > > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > jdev mailing list
> > > > > jdev at jabber.org
> > > > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > jdev mailing list
> > > > > jdev at jabber.org
> > > > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > jdev mailing list
> > > > jdev at jabber.org
> > > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > jdev mailing list
> > > jdev at jabber.org
> > > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > jdev mailing list
> > jdev at jabber.org
> > http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> >
> >
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> jdev mailing list
> jdev at jabber.org
> http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> 
> 
> -- __--__-- 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> jdev mailing list
> jdev at jabber.org
> http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev
> 
> 
> End of jdev Digest
> _______________________________________________
> jdev mailing list
> jdev at jabber.org
> http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev




--__--__--

_______________________________________________
jdev mailing list
jdev at jabber.org
http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev


End of jdev Digest



More information about the JDev mailing list