[JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

Dave dave at dave.tj
Thu Apr 18 12:52:09 CDT 2002


Well, I see no reason why a client can't simply replace all occurrences of
"\blove\b" in an incoming message with a heart-like graphic.  That'd be
an extremely clean way to incorperate any "emoticons" you want into your
client, while maintaining full ASCII compatibility.

 - Dave


Mattias Campe wrote:
> 
> Dave wrote:
> > There are a number of Web pages outlining "standard" emoticons.  What's wrong with simply using them?
> > 
> > Dave Cohen <dave at dave.tj>
> > 
> > Motto: Don't invent stuff you don't have to :-)
> 
> I like the standard emoticons like :-) :D 8-) They are descriptive 
> themselves, but I hate ones like (b) (l) ...
> 
> > Mattias Campe wrote:
> > 
> >>(I changed from e-mail adres: from cobnet at hotmail.com to this one, just 
> >>that you know ;-) )
> >>
> >>"Just" (few weeks) learned Jabber and I really like the open source 
> >>thing, to bad that Jabber wasn't just before MSN, ICQ, ... :(
> >>
> >>Great, open source, everyone can build his own client. Well the problem 
> >>is that it is going the wrong way with the emoticons. Everybody can 
> >>define it's own ones... You can say "So, what the f*ck is your problem", 
> >>Well, for some really strange reason, a lot of people "kick" on 
> >>emoticons. Real life example: I tried Everybuddy to give my sister 
> >>MSN-acces through my linux box. She totally disliked the program because 
> >>of the lack of emoticons.
> >>
> >>Well, just fine, but what will make an emoticon and what not? We could 
> >>take over all of the emoticons of MSN, being the most populary 
> >>emoticon-IM-System on the whole planet. Real life example: tried to 
> >>convince a friend of me to go with Jabber and not to take an MSN 
> >>account. His friends were on MSN, so he did too :( .
> >>I would rather like to continue the idea of "[JDEV] Leaving proprietary 
> >>systems for what they are" because Jabber will make it, with or without 
> >>MSN, ICQ, Yahoo!Messenger, ... So we just define our own emoticons.
> >>
> >>I personally think that the representation of an emoticon should be 
> >>descriptive, because it could be that people use a non-emoticon client 
> >>(e.g. they find all those emoticons overhead). So instead of (l) (MSN 
> >>example) we could use :love: Because I think "I :love: you" is more 
> >>comprehensible than "I (l) you" (Hmm, maybe a bad example ;-) ). A 
> >>problem that you have then, is that it will be probably all English. We 
> >>could use esperanto instead, but I don't think a lot of people know a 
> >>lot of esperanto ;-)...
> >>
> >>But how will we do it?
> >>I think it want be easy to try to make all existing clients using our 
> >>guidelines. So I thought of the following: we build an emoticon website 
> >>with explanation about our goal. We contact as much of graphic 
> >>developers as we can, this to make it the client developers easy to 
> >>build in new emoticons. Everything should be prepared: static emoticons, 
> >>moving emoticons and as much emoticons as possible.
> >>
> >>Once again, maybe this sounds strange to you, but people really kick on 
> >>emoticons. It's like "programs don't have to be usefull, they have to be 
> >>cool". I'm almost sure I can convince my sister just like that if a 
> >>client would have cool emoticons.
> >>
> >>
> >>Sorry that this is written like my idea will break through and sorry 
> >>that I used "we" a lot, but that made it easier to write. BTW I don't 
> >>think I'll have the time now help to develop this idea (if you would 
> >>like it :D ) because of projects and coming examinations. Still I would 
> >>like to have your thoughts on this one, maybe when my exams are finished 
> >>I can try to (help) develop this idea.
> >>
> >>greetings
> >>.m.
> >>aka (c)obnet
> >>
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