[JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

[Mattias Campe]

Dave wrote:
> There are a number of Web pages outlining "standard" emoticons.  What's wrong with simply using them?
> 
> Dave Cohen <dave at dave.tj>
> 
> Motto: Don't invent stuff you don't have to :-)

I like the standard emoticons like :-) :D 8-) They are descriptive 
themselves, but I hate ones like (b) (l) ...

> Mattias Campe wrote:
> 
>>(I changed from e-mail adres: from cobnet at hotmail.com to this one, just 
>>that you know ;-) )
>>
>>"Just" (few weeks) learned Jabber and I really like the open source 
>>thing, to bad that Jabber wasn't just before MSN, ICQ, ... :(
>>
>>Great, open source, everyone can build his own client. Well the problem 
>>is that it is going the wrong way with the emoticons. Everybody can 
>>define it's own ones... You can say "So, what the f*ck is your problem", 
>>Well, for some really strange reason, a lot of people "kick" on 
>>emoticons. Real life example: I tried Everybuddy to give my sister 
>>MSN-acces through my linux box. She totally disliked the program because 
>>of the lack of emoticons.
>>
>>Well, just fine, but what will make an emoticon and what not? We could 
>>take over all of the emoticons of MSN, being the most populary 
>>emoticon-IM-System on the whole planet. Real life example: tried to 
>>convince a friend of me to go with Jabber and not to take an MSN 
>>account. His friends were on MSN, so he did too :( .
>>I would rather like to continue the idea of "[JDEV] Leaving proprietary 
>>systems for what they are" because Jabber will make it, with or without 
>>MSN, ICQ, Yahoo!Messenger, ... So we just define our own emoticons.
>>
>>I personally think that the representation of an emoticon should be 
>>descriptive, because it could be that people use a non-emoticon client 
>>(e.g. they find all those emoticons overhead). So instead of (l) (MSN 
>>example) we could use :love: Because I think "I :love: you" is more 
>>comprehensible than "I (l) you" (Hmm, maybe a bad example ;-) ). A 
>>problem that you have then, is that it will be probably all English. We 
>>could use esperanto instead, but I don't think a lot of people know a 
>>lot of esperanto ;-)...
>>
>>But how will we do it?
>>I think it want be easy to try to make all existing clients using our 
>>guidelines. So I thought of the following: we build an emoticon website 
>>with explanation about our goal. We contact as much of graphic 
>>developers as we can, this to make it the client developers easy to 
>>build in new emoticons. Everything should be prepared: static emoticons, 
>>moving emoticons and as much emoticons as possible.
>>
>>Once again, maybe this sounds strange to you, but people really kick on 
>>emoticons. It's like "programs don't have to be usefull, they have to be 
>>cool". I'm almost sure I can convince my sister just like that if a 
>>client would have cool emoticons.
>>
>>
>>Sorry that this is written like my idea will break through and sorry 
>>that I used "we" a lot, but that made it easier to write. BTW I don't 
>>think I'll have the time now help to develop this idea (if you would 
>>like it :D ) because of projects and coming examinations. Still I would 
>>like to have your thoughts on this one, maybe when my exams are finished 
>>I can try to (help) develop this idea.
>>
>>greetings
>>.m.
>>aka (c)obnet
>>
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