[JDEV] Distributed Authentication - thoughts people?

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Mon Oct 1 12:52:49 CDT 2001


I agree, it will happen. When is another story. ;)

Peter


On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Max Metral wrote:

> Never say never... Isn't that phase 2 of the IM Interop efforts, to allow
> server to server interop?  I would think it WILL happen, just not on any
> time schedule other than market pressure.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Hearn [mailto:mhearn at mailandnews.net]
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 2:13 PM
> To: jdev at jabber.org
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] Distributed Authentication - thoughts people?
> 
> 
> First, let's sort out a misconception for Jay Curry:
> 
> Yes, the way chat network compatability is implemented in Jabber might 
> be called a fudge but it is in fact the best anyone will ever get. You 
> must always have an account on the other IM networks for very simple 
> reasons - say the MSN network assumes you have an account with it. It's 
> not possible to send messages to people without being logged in to MSN, 
> and it's not possible to login to MSN without an account. Ditto for all 
> the other platforms. You will never ever be able to remove that requirement.
> 
> Adam: yes I am well aware of the difference between authorization and 
> authentication, I have put a note to this effect in the JEP I am writing 
> now. I think the proposed protcols will deal with both, but separately 
> so there is no confusion.
> 
> Finally, I don't think this should be part of the security JIG. Security 
> and authentication are two different things. Security is about ensuring 
> that the network is hacker-proof, and that communications are properly 
> encrypted amongst other things. Authentication is about verifying 
> identity. They do  overlap in some areas, but I do think that this needs 
> its own JIG.
> 
> thanks -mike
> 
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