[JDEV] No More

David Waite dwaite at jabber.com
Thu Jan 25 19:43:42 CST 2001


I wondered why you left the way you did.

I was joking. If you have *really* been paying attention to jdev, you
would see people like Eric Bowersox, Schuyler Heath, Keith Minkler and
Thomas Muldowney working *extremely* hard on these transports to get
them stable for 1.4. Schuyler in particular has taken over ICQ and
nearly overnight revamped it for the new architecture, and improved
stability tenfold.

We *know* the transports are not rock solid, and the above people in
particular are working very hard towards that goal.

If you are still on this list, I would advise you to direct accusations
about what I say to me, and not bash a bunch of very hard-working people
over what was a joke.

-David Waite (mass)

bill elain wrote:

> This is a post that was just in the discussion room.
>
> [18:18] <mass> quiet? quite
> [18:19] <twofriedeggs> you mean no-one's complaining
> about a transport being down? yikes!
> [18:19] <twofriedeggs> :-)
> [18:19] <mass> twofriedeggs: we figured out how to
> solve that problem. Groupchat now filters out those
> messages ;-)
> [18:20] <mickey2> I take it you all do not want to
> hear that then? better to just pat yourselves on the
> back and think all is well
> [18:20] <twofriedeggs> then that'd explain the
> quietness ;)
> [18:21] <mickey2> evidently your interest is not in
> things working, just the illusion, so enjoy your
> illusion then
> [18:21] %% mickey2 has left
>
> Now I put this here so all would know, why I am
> stating what I am stating.
> I have watched and mostly listening in the room for
> awhile now. Waiting for things to line out and 1.4 to
> get online and transports working. Many have also and
> as it seemed that the time was approaching that this
> might happen, I am I am sure others, have been excited
> about it. I am NOT a developer, what I am is ONE of
> the end users that I THOUGHT, was the purpose of
> Jabber, or at least one of the purposes. For the
> masses to use your IM clients. I now find that perhaps
> is NOT the case.
> I did not realize that my letting the people in the
> know, know that transports were not working correctly,
> was a problem and they did not wish to know these
> things. I do now understand and stand corrected.
> Jabber is not meant,perhaps for those like me, just
> for those who develop it. I was misinformed. So for
> those of you out there who thought you were in some
> small way helping, DON'T it is neither appreciated nor
> wanted as you can see by the post.
> No worries, I will NOT bother you again.
> Understand, I do not think all the developers are this
> way, but then I didn't think they thought that way at
> all, so who knows. I do know that for me, I will go
> back to another program, and not bother those who are
> working so hard at making sure that all looks good,
> Perhaps one day, it might, but then perhaps it is the
> last thing I seen stated
> . [18:26] * mass prefers to use his illusion
> Kinda speaks for itself doesn't it.
> For you end users, perhaps OMNI would be a good
> choice, it will do the yahoo icq msn and aol, not like
> jabber will, but then perhaps jabber wasn't meant to
> work, just look good and impress some.
>
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