[JDEV] RFC 2778 and RFC 2779

Eliot Landrum eliot at landrum.cx
Tue May 30 10:18:14 CDT 2000


Hello Henrick! 

I hope HotJabber.com is going well for you...

Actually, we just discussed these on kuro5hin.org in relation to Julian Missig's article about Jabber. See the thread titled "Where the security needs to be.":

http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2000/5/18/17042/5662

I also addressed this in the protocol RFC that we are preparing for submission to the IETF IMPP. Here's what I stated in that RFC:


2. Conformance to RFC 2778 and RFC 2779

   The implemented protocol presented in this memo is in near
   conformance to RFC 2778[5], "A Model for Presence and Instant
   Messaging" and RFC 2779[6], "Instant Messaging / Presence Protocol
   Requirements." Notable exceptions to non-conformance are outlined in
   the following subsection. It should be noted that the Jabber
   protocol has been in evolution for approxiamtly two years as of the
   date of this memo, thus this protocol has not been designed in
   response to RFCs 2778 and 2779. 

2.1 Exceptions to Conformance

   o  RFC 2779, section 2.5 - Message Encryption and Authentication. It
      is in the opinion of the authors of this memo that these goals
      are extremely high and difficult to implement in a distributed
      architechture. However, complete conformance with these
      requirements can be obtained by using a standard public key
      infrastructure such as GnuPG or PGP.

   o  RFC 2779, section 4.1, paragraph 10 regarding message formats
      based on MIME.

   o  RFC 2779, section 4.2 - Reliability. This type of guarantee of
      reliability can be obtained by creating a message structure based
      on the Info/Query (Section 5) structure.

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Hope that answers your questions.

On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 04:36:18PM +0200, Hans Henrik Fuxelius wrote:
> Hi folks!
> 
> I have read two RFC's on instant messages at www.ietf.org, namely:
> 
> i)  RFC 2778 - 'A Model for Presence and Instant Messaging'
> ii) RFC 2779 - 'Instant Messaging / Present Protocol Requirements'
> 
> They are both quite interesting reading in themselves even thought they are 
> in an early stage.
> 
> My question is:
> Have they had any influence on the Jabber project and are they 
> valuable/useble at all to the Jabber community ???
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Hans Henrik Fuxelius
> 
> Webmaster at http://HotJabber.com
> Mail:   fuxen at lagerlov.jabber.nu
> 
> 
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