Ha, well yes there is a place for political discussions here at times in technical forums.<div><br></div><div>That is why I am on this list. Just look at where Eric Schmidt from Google is today, or at least he was there yesterday I believe, North Korea. </div>
<div><br></div><div> But yes for sure it has to be within reason and limited in focus/scope. </div><div><br></div><div>So after being a very silent member to this list for the past 4 or 5 years, I will say I remember</div>
<div>very vividly the day I sat down with the director of marketing at facebook in their at the time</div><div>very small corporate offices in Palo Alto and talking about XMPP and using IM on the fb platform, etc. I think they might have had a couple of million registered users at the time. MySpace "owned the world" at the time. A lot has changed in XMPP and social networking worlds since then. </div>
<div><br></div><div>And yes, it sure would be useful and cool to add one more level of "unified communications" into the Social Networking world. </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:53 AM, Dennis Schubert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:xmpp@dennis-schubert.de" target="_blank">xmpp@dennis-schubert.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
</div>you are right, "never" was a bit too hard. I just was talking about what<br>
I heard from some official sides before. Just wanted to say that would<br>
be a pretty nice "improvement". Seems to work fine for Google, but this<br>
list is not the right place for policital discussions, I guess.<br>
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On 08.01.13 08:39, Pedro Melo wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Dennis Schubert<br>
> <<a href="mailto:xmpp@dennis-schubert.de">xmpp@dennis-schubert.de</a>> wrote:<br>
>> IIRC, Facebook will never allow s2s.<br>
><br>
> "Never" is one of those words…<br>
><br>
> There is no technical reason that prevents Facebook providing S2S.<br>
> Even with their usage of your own email address as login.<br>
><br>
> When you add a new buddy to your Facebook chat app, say<br>
> <a href="mailto:melo@simplicidade.org">melo@simplicidade.org</a>, they could offer the option of using my<br>
> Facebook IM account (<a href="mailto:melopt@facebook.com">melopt@facebook.com</a>, who they know is<br>
> associated with that email address) or a remote Jabber/Gtalk/XMPP<br>
> account.<br>
><br>
> The person identifier you use to add a buddy needs not be the actual<br>
> XMPP JID you'll use to communicate. It's just a mapping process at<br>
> the moment you add the buddy account.<br>
><br>
> Only political/strategy reasons, and possibly a little concern with<br>
> another attack vector, prevent Facebook from adding S2S.<br>
><br>
> Bye,<br>
<br>
</div>- --<br>
Dennis Schubert<br>
<a href="http://schub.io" target="_blank">http://schub.io</a><br>
xmpp:denschub@dsx.cc<br>
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