<div dir="ltr">I have noticed when trying to build a component that unless my contacts are mutally subscribed then there are issues with messages and sending presence to one another. Which was very irrating when I was trying to send a directed presence to a non-subscribed jid and it was dropped at a server (i forgot which one now). It would only work if there was subscribtion between them.<br> <br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/9/29 Dave Cridland <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave@cridland.net">dave@cridland.net</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="Ih2E3d">On Mon Sep 29 15:23:20 2008, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote:<br> > However, google talk, in their incredible desire to battle spam, do<br> > not<br> > deliver messages unless contacts are mutually subscribed, so for<br> > gtalk<br> > users, you need to subscribe to them as well. (And do not ask me how<br> > this helps eliminate unwanted messages.)<br> <br> </div>Oh, it certainly makes spam much harder to send via messages.<br> <br> Of course, it also means any spammers will use subscription-requests<br> as a spam vector, which is considerably more irritating, since it<br> requires a positive action to get rid of.<br> <br> Dave.<br> <font color="#888888">--<br> Dave Cridland - mailto:<a href="mailto:dave@cridland.net">dave@cridland.net</a> - <a href="mailto:xmpp%3Adwd@dave.cridland.net">xmpp:dwd@dave.cridland.net</a><br>  - acap://<a href="http://acap.dave.cridland.net/byowner/user/dwd/bookmarks/" target="_blank">acap.dave.cridland.net/byowner/user/dwd/bookmarks/</a><br>  - <a href="http://dave.cridland.net/" target="_blank">http://dave.cridland.net/</a><br> Infotrope Polymer - ACAP, IMAP, ESMTP, and Lemonade<br> </font><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">_______________________________________________<br> JDev mailing list<br> FAQ: <a href="http://www.jabber.org/discussion-lists/jdev-faq" target="_blank">http://www.jabber.org/discussion-lists/jdev-faq</a><br> Forum: <a href="http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20" target="_blank">http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20</a><br> Info: <a href="http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev" target="_blank">http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev</a><br> Unsubscribe: <a href="mailto:JDev-unsubscribe@jabber.org">JDev-unsubscribe@jabber.org</a><br> _______________________________________________<br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>