<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I'm answering all the prior messages about this.    Ideally there WOULD be an extension to a message wherein you could instruct the remote server to bounce messages for users that are not online... but I don't think gtalk supports that and I have no idea if they well.   As far as probing goes, I guess you could probe if you haven't seen activity in a while, though I wonder whether that wouldn't be frowned upon by other services.  I'm not sure if its seen as outside the spec if you will.     We're talking about a potentially VERY large number of JIDs so it seems eventually you'd be constantly probing, which other servers might not like.<div><br></div><div>On of the prior comments was about how servers default to the next available resource if the one being sent to is offline.  That's not my problem as we are only sending to the bare JID in the first place.  The problem is that NONE of the user's resources are online, even though we think there's at least one of them that is.</div><div><br></div><div>adam</div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 2, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Norman Rasmussen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Ernest Nova <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ennova2005-jabber@yahoo.com">ennova2005-jabber@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> 3. I believe the specific remedy for your situation and of similar other alerting bots would be to define an XMPP extension / message attribute that would instruct the remote server to deliver a message only if it thinks the user is in a certain presence state. (Whether or not Gtalk will implement it is another matter).  This could be part of extensions defining delivery instructions in general.<br> </blockquote></div><br>XEP-0079 [1] perhaps?<br><br>[1] <a href="http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0079.html">http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0079.html</a><br><br>-- <br>- Norman Rasmussen<br> - Email: <a href="mailto:norman@rasmussen.co.za">norman@rasmussen.co.za</a><br> - Home page: <a href="http://norman.rasmussen.co.za/">http://norman.rasmussen.co.za/</a><br> </div> _______________________________________________<br>JDev mailing list<br>FAQ: <a href="http://www.jabber.org/discussion-lists/jdev-faq">http://www.jabber.org/discussion-lists/jdev-faq</a><br>Forum: <a href="http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20">http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20</a><br>Info: <a href="http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev">http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev</a><br>Unsubscribe: <a href="mailto:JDev-unsubscribe@jabber.org">JDev-unsubscribe@jabber.org</a><br>_______________________________________________<br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>