<div dir="ltr">Hi Remko, Thanks for the response. I'm using OpenFire for the server software, and I enabled the IM Gateway plugin which allows me to talk to YIM, MSN, etc. I think I've narrowed down the problem - seems like it might be a bug in the YIM transport. When I reply "subscribed" to MSN and gtalk, it seems to work fine, but in the case of YIM it doesn't even send me the subscribe request. A more general question - is it necessary to follow 'subscribed' with a subscription request of your own? Ie, do I need to be subscribed to all people that are subscribed to me, or is it fine to just send 'subscribed' and be done with it? In my case, I don't need to know their presence, I just want them to be able to IM my bot. Thanks <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:59 AM, Remko Tronçon <<a href="mailto:remko@el-tramo.be">remko@el-tramo.be</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="Ih2E3d">> Right now I'm just responding to the request with a presence subscribed, but > that doesn't seem to do the trick. Thanks. </div>Replying to every presence type 'subscribe' with 'subscribed' should be enough. What server(s) software are you using? How do you know that the subscription didn't work? cheers, Remko _______________________________________________ JDev mailing list FAQ: <a href="http://www.jabber.org/discussion-lists/jdev-faq" target="_blank">http://www.jabber.org/discussion-lists/jdev-faq</a> Forum: <a href="http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20" target="_blank">http://www.jabberforum.org/forumdisplay.php?f=20</a> Info: <a href="http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev" target="_blank">http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev</a> Unsubscribe: <a href="mailto:JDev-unsubscribe@jabber.org">JDev-unsubscribe@jabber.org</a> _______________________________________________ </blockquote></div> </div>