<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV></DIV><DIV style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">On Mar 9, 2006, at 11:43 AM, Gary Burd wrote:</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"><BR style=""></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">I've been looking at this, but I have not been able to reproduce it.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">Some more information will help me figure out what's going on:</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"><BR style=""></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">- Time that problem was first observed.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">Perhaps 1.5-2 weeks ago. I can get more specific if necessary by looking through the logs.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"><BR style=""></SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">- Is the Trillian user logged into a @gmail.com or @googlemail.com account?</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">The trillian user is logged into a @gmail.com account. I've also observed problems with Pandion, but I haven't investigated it </SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">thoroughly</SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"><BR style=""></SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">- Is the sender logged into a @gmail.com or @googlemail.com account?</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">The "other person" is not logged into a gmail.com or googlemail.com account at all, they are on a different server. (deepdarc.com specificly)</SPAN></FONT></DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"><BR style=""></SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">- What client is the sender using?</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"><BR style=""></SPAN></FONT><DIV style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">I use iChat mostly, as well as the mac version of PSI 0.10. I have experienced the same problems with both. </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">I've also noticed that google talk curiously sends "probe" presence stanzas to my resources. I have no idea why. It confuses PSI quite a bit, annoyingly.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;">If you'd like me to run some more controlled tests, let me know.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="2"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 10px;"></SPAN></FONT><BR><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV style="font-size: 8px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 8px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 8px; ">__________________</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="6"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 24px;; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Cochin"><B style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Cochin; font-size: 24px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Cochin; font-size: 24px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Cochin; font-size: 24px; font-weight: bold; ">Robert Quattlebaum</SPAN></SPAN></B></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Courier New"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier New; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier New; ">Mobile: </SPAN></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia; ">+1</SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#2B2B2B"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(43, 43, 43); font-family: Georgia; ">(650) 223-4974</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Courier New"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier New; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier New; ">eMail: </SPAN></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia; "><A href="mailto:darco@deepdarc.com">darco@deepdarc.com</A></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Courier New"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier New; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier New; ">Jabber: </SPAN></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia; "><A href="mailto:darco@deepdarc.com">darco@deepdarc.com</A></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV></SPAN></SPAN></DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier New"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></BODY></HTML>