<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Also, what's up with this? This is from my jabberd2 logs:<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">Wed Mar 8 16:00:44 2006 [notice] [9] [64.233.167.125, port=5269] outgoing connection</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">Wed Mar 8 </SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF3300"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">16:00:45</SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"> 2006 [notice] [9] [64.233.167.125, port=5269] sending dialback auth request for route 'deepdarc.com/gmail.com'</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">Wed Mar 8 </SPAN></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF3300"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">16:01:05</SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;"> 2006 [notice] [9] [64.233.167.125, port=5269] disconnect</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">Wed Mar 8 16:01:08 2006 [notice] [9] [64.233.166.129, port=59886] incoming connection</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">Wed Mar 8 16:01:08 2006 [notice] [9] [64.233.166.129, port=59886] incoming stream online (id fb0bnheig2ryer70iwdedyckh4frmikofo3si2ow)</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">Wed Mar 8 16:01:08 2006 [notice] [9] [64.233.166.129, port=59886] received dialback auth request for route 'deepdarc.com/gmail.com'</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">Wed Mar 8 16:01:08 2006 [notice] [10] [64.233.167.125, port=5269] outgoing connection</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">Wed Mar 8 16:01:08 2006 [notice] [10] [64.233.167.125, port=5269] sending dialback auth request for route 'deepdarc.com/gmail.com'</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">Wed Mar 8 16:01:08 2006 [notice] [9] [64.233.166.129, port=59886] checking dialback verification from gmail.com: sending valid</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">Wed Mar 8 16:01:08 2006 [notice] [10] [64.233.167.125, port=5269] outgoing route 'deepdarc.com/gmail.com' is now valid</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Monaco" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 11px;">Wed Mar 8 16:01:09 2006 [notice] [9] [64.233.166.129, port=59886] incoming route 'deepdarc.com/gmail.com' is now valid</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span">I got this after trying to send a message who was a gmail contact. The first packet <I>bounced</I>. Notice that when trying to execute a dialback auth request, it apparently fails... but then all of the sudden gmail.com decides send my server some packets, and both an incoming and outgoing route are negotiated with no problems. Whaaa?</SPAN></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Is this a problem with gmail or a problem with my server?</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Mar 8, 2006, at 3:22 PM, Robert B Quattlebaum, Jr. wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Gill Sans">I</FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Gill Sans">s it just me or has it suddenly gotten much more difficult to chat with someone who is using a non-gtalk client on google talk? (That is, from outside the google network)</FONT></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>My friend who is using trillian says that the trillian log is complaining that <cli:message ...> isn't a valid top level stanza and drops it. Looks like a namespace issue of some sorts? Pandion doesn't seem to work too well either...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Anyone else have any ideas?</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV style="font-size: 8px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 8px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 8px; ">__________________</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style=""><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" size="6"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 24px;; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Cochin"><B style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Cochin; font-size: 24px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Cochin; font-size: 24px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Cochin; font-size: 24px; font-weight: bold; ">Robert Quattlebaum</SPAN></SPAN></B></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Courier New"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier New; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier New; ">Mobile: </SPAN></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia; ">+1</SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#2B2B2B"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(43, 43, 43); font-family: Georgia; ">(650) 223-4974</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Courier New"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier New; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier New; ">eMail: </SPAN></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia; "><A href="mailto:darco@deepdarc.com">darco@deepdarc.com</A></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Courier New"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier New; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Courier New; ">Jabber: </SPAN></SPAN><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Georgia"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia; "><A href="mailto:darco@deepdarc.com">darco@deepdarc.com</A></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV></SPAN></SPAN></DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Courier New"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></BODY></HTML>