I have seen a lot of mails about yahoo & Jabber. I couldnt understand why peole have difficulties in connecting to yahoo and I am using jabber for the last 2 years . I never had any probmelm. and now itself wiht the latest Tranport installed in my jabber server and it works fine and I can communicate with all my MSN, AOL , ICQ and Yahoo buddies. Couldnt understand whats the disucssion is all about.HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM  jdev-request@jabber.org wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Send jdev mailing list submissions to jdev@jabber.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to jdev-request@jabber.org You can reach the person managing the list at jdev-admin@jabber.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of jdev digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone? (Neil Stevens) 2. RE: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone? (Lyn Bartram) 3. Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone? (Robert Sanders) 4. Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone? (Richard Dobson) 5. Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone? (Richard Dobson) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Neil Stevens <NEIL@QUALITYASSISTANT.COM> To: jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone? Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:16:19 -0800 Reply-To: jdev@jabber.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday January 24, 2003 01:35, Richard Dobson wrote: > > On Thursday January 23, 2003 04:38, Marc Blank wrote: > > > The three companies - Yahoo, AOL, and MSN - are the 800-pound > > > gorillas of the internet. In their minds, it's a life or death > > > struggle, and every bit of exclusivity provides an edge, no matter > > > how slight. > > > > > > Yahoo abandoning YIM for Jabber is about as likely as Apple > > > abandoning the Mac OS in favor of Linux... ;-) > > > > Yeah, they already moved to FreeBSD. > > Urm no actually its MacOSX which runs on Darwin which uses the Mach > kernel, its not FreeBSD. Nobody has a sense of humor anymore. :-) - -- Neil Stevens - neil@qualityassistant.com "Distinctions by race are so evil, so arbitrary and insidious that a state bound to defend the equal protection of the laws must not allow them in any public sphere." -- Thurgood Marshall -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+MZEDf7mnligQOmERAlgJAJ4x0SeblSaOQGMM9Q/tpo6rxC6mWACfZ9JK mm1Nh7z3VzvL6/MCd6+Ekv8= =lkVN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Lyn Bartram <LBARTRAM@COLLIGO.COM> To: "'jdev@jabber.org'" <JDEV@JABBER.ORG> Subject: RE: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone? Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:30:53 -0800 Reply-To: jdev@jabber.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C3EF.DF7CE6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" The Mach kernel, which came out of SMU, is a small computer version of the BSD kernel. So it may not be FreeBSD, but it essentially BSD ( as opposed to other flavours of Unix). --lyn (Unix ROCKS :) -----Original Message----- From: Richard Dobson [mailto:richard@dobson-i.net] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 1:35 AM To: jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone? > On Thursday January 23, 2003 04:38, Marc Blank wrote: > > The three companies - Yahoo, AOL, and MSN - are the 800-pound gorillas > > of the internet. In their minds, it's a life or death struggle, and > > every bit of exclusivity provides an edge, no matter how slight. > > > > Yahoo abandoning YIM for Jabber is about as likely as Apple abandoning > > the Mac OS in favor of Linux... ;-) > > Yeah, they already moved to FreeBSD. Urm no actually its MacOSX which runs on Darwin which uses the Mach kernel, its not FreeBSD. _______________________________________________ jdev mailing list jdev@jabber.org http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C3EF.DF7CE6E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" <META content="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2653.12" name=Generator> The Mach kernel, which came out of SMU, is a small computer version of  the BSD kernel. So it may not be FreeBSD, but it essentially BSD ( as opposed to other flavours of Unix). --lyn (Unix ROCKS :) -----Original Message----- From: Richard Dobson [<A href="mailto:richard@dobson-i.net">mailto:richard@dobson-i.net</A>] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 1:35 AM To: jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone? > On Thursday January 23, 2003 04:38, Marc Blank wrote: > > The three companies - Yahoo, AOL, and MSN - are the 800-pound gorillas > > of the internet.  In their minds, it's a life or death struggle, and > > every bit of exclusivity provides an edge, no matter how slight. > > > > Yahoo abandoning YIM for Jabber is about as likely as Apple abandoning > > the Mac OS in favor of Linux... ;-) > > Yeah, they already moved to FreeBSD. Urm no actually its MacOSX which runs on Darwin which uses the Mach kernel, its not FreeBSD. _______________________________________________ jdev mailing list jdev@jabber.org <A href="http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev" target=_blank>http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev</A> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2C3EF.DF7CE6E0-- --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Robert Sanders" <SANDERSR@CORP.EARTHLINK.NET> To: <JDEV@JABBER.ORG> Subject: Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone? Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:14:53 -0500 Organization: EarthLink Reply-To: jdev@jabber.org RE: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone?lbartram@colligo.com wrote: > The Mach kernel, which came out of SMU, is a small computer version of the BSD kernel. > So it may not be FreeBSD, but it essentially BSD ( as opposed to other flavours of Unix). I'm afraid you're a little confused. Mach was a microkernel research project which did, in various ways, incorporate large parts of the BSD kernel to provide Unix functionality. However, it was most definitely not Unix at its core. That was just a "personality" layered on top. Mach has also supported personalities based upon Linux, OSF/1, NextStep (basically BSD 4.2), the Hurd (which is quite different from Unix), and no doubt quite a few research operating systems of which I've never heard. regards, -- Robert -- How many times does a man have to shave before his chin gets the message? -- Slaughtermatic, Steve Aylett --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Richard Dobson" <RICHARD@DOBSON-I.NET> To: <JDEV@JABBER.ORG> Subject: Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone? Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:41:03 -0000 Reply-To: jdev@jabber.org > > > > Yahoo abandoning YIM for Jabber is about as likely as Apple > > > > abandoning the Mac OS in favor of Linux... ;-) > > > > > > Yeah, they already moved to FreeBSD. > > > > Urm no actually its MacOSX which runs on Darwin which uses the Mach > > kernel, its not FreeBSD. > > Nobody has a sense of humor anymore. :-) How does saying Apple have moved to FreeBSD when they haven't classify as humour???? Richard --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Richard Dobson" <RICHARD@DOBSON-I.NET> To: <JDEV@JABBER.ORG> Subject: Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone? Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:50:29 -0000 Reply-To: jdev@jabber.org RE: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone?Actually the Mach kernel came out of a research project at CMU (Carnegie Mellon University) not SMU, and as has already been said is not just for BSD but is used in a lot of other systems, but yes coming back to the main point Darwin is based on BSD/Mach just as FreeBSD is based on BSD but that still does not mean MacOSX is FreeBSD, its not. Anyway I think thats enough of this argument ;), if anyone still wants to argue about this I suggest we take it off list or that you do some googling. Mach project website for anyone interested: http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/mach/public/www/mach.html http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/project/mach/public/www/overview.html Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: Lyn Bartram To: 'jdev@jabber.org' Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:30 PM Subject: RE: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone? The Mach kernel, which came out of SMU, is a small computer version of the BSD kernel. So it may not be FreeBSD, but it essentially BSD ( as opposed to other flavours of Unix). --lyn (Unix ROCKS :) -----Original Message----- From: Richard Dobson [mailto:richard@dobson-i.net] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 1:35 AM To: jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: RE: [JDEV] yahoo issues anyone? > On Thursday January 23, 2003 04:38, Marc Blank wrote: > > The three companies - Yahoo, AOL, and MSN - are the 800-pound gorillas > > of the internet. In their minds, it's a life or death struggle, and > > every bit of exclusivity provides an edge, no matter how slight. > > > > Yahoo abandoning YIM for Jabber is about as likely as Apple abandoning > > the Mac OS in favor of Linux... ;-) > > Yeah, they already moved to FreeBSD. Urm no actually its MacOSX which runs on Darwin which uses the Mach kernel, its not FreeBSD. _______________________________________________ jdev mailing list jdev@jabber.org http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev --__--__-- _______________________________________________ jdev mailing list jdev@jabber.org http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev End of jdev Digest</BLOCKQUOTE> U.V.N.PARDHA SARADHI People don't plan to fail... they fail to plan  <hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!? <a href="http://rd.yahoo.com/mail/mailsig/*http://mailplus.yahoo.com">Yahoo! Mail Plus</a> - Powerful. Affordable. <a href="http://rd.yahoo.com/mail/mailsig/*http://mailplus.yahoo.com">Sign up now</a>