<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=koi8-r"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3315.2870" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=Garamond>I had a<SPAN class=130415711-24012003> thought</SPAN>: a jabber server + jabber client packaged into a single installer could be used as a convinient multiprotocol IM client. I.e., both the j server & j client will run on the same localhost. They may even be compiled into a single executable. </FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1><FONT size=3><FONT face=Garamond><SPAN class=130415711-24012003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1><FONT size=3><FONT face=Garamond><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>Rationales</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1><FONT size=3><FONT face=Garamond><SPAN class=130415711-24012003></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV></FONT> <DIV><FONT size=1><FONT size=3><SPAN class=130415711-24012003><FONT size=1><FONT size=3><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>Rationale 1.  </SPAN></FONT></FONT>I</SPAN> find it difficult to find a working gateway server e.g. for icq, aim, <SPAN class=130415711-24012003>msn, </SPAN>yahoo. So the main point is that the local gateways to these services will work much better, since the localhost does have a very little load.<SPAN class=130415711-24012003> <FONT size=1><FONT size=3><SPAN class=130415711-24012003> Here, </SPAN><FONT size=1></FONT><FONT size=3>i <FONT size=1></FONT>mostly<SPAN class=130415711-24012003> </SPAN>speak about free gateway servers for icq, aim, yahoo. They are sometimes unstable, overloaded, slow, etc. The local system might <SPAN class=130415711-24012003>represent </SPAN><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>a</SPAN> more attractive choice.</FONT></FONT></FONT><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>  </SPAN>Additionally, the local server will not become banned by AOL and other companies.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1><FONT size=3><SPAN class=130415711-24012003></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT size=1> </DIV><FONT size=3> <DIV><FONT size=1><FONT size=3><SPAN class=130415711-24012003><FONT size=1><FONT face=Garamond size=3><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>Rationale 2. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT size=1></FONT><FONT face=Garamond size=3> <SPAN class=130415711-24012003>T</SPAN>he system will be much less distributed, and, therefore, much more stable.</FONT></FONT><FONT size=1><FONT face=Garamond size=3><SPAN class=130415711-24012003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1><FONT face=Garamond size=3><SPAN class=130415711-24012003></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1><FONT face=Garamond size=3><SPAN class=130415711-24012003></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1><FONT face=Garamond size=3><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>Possible implementation details</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1><FONT face=Garamond size=3><SPAN class=130415711-24012003><FONT size=3><FONT face=Garamond><SPAN class=130415711-24012003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1><FONT face=Garamond size=3><SPAN class=130415711-24012003><FONT size=3><FONT face=Garamond><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>T</SPAN>he local jabber server does not have to use jabber s2s, it may have a special transport for c2s<SPAN class=130415711-24012003> to public jabber servers & services.</SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT size=1><FONT size=3><FONT face=Garamond><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>  </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1><FONT face=Garamond size=3><SPAN class=130415711-24012003><FONT size=1><FONT size=3><FONT face=Garamond><SPAN class=130415711-24012003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1><FONT face=Garamond size=3><SPAN class=130415711-24012003><FONT size=1><FONT size=3><FONT face=Garamond><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>Any</SPAN> <SPAN class=130415711-24012003>local </SPAN><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>ja</SPAN><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>bber server </SPAN>configuration <SPAN class=130415711-24012003>tasks </SPAN><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>that are too <SPAN class=130415711-24012003>advanced and/or </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>not useful</SPAN><SPAN class=130415711-24012003> </SPAN><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>in the normal circumstances </SPAN>can be <SPAN class=130415711-24012003>done at compile time and/or automatically at runtime, </SPAN>such that the enduser will never be able to get to these handles<SPAN class=130415711-24012003>.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Garamond size=3><FONT face=Garamond><SPAN class=130415711-24012003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1><FONT face=Garamond size=3><FONT face=Garamond><SPAN class=130415711-24012003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1><FONT face=Garamond size=3><FONT face=Garamond><SPAN class=130415711-24012003></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1><FONT size=3><FONT face=Garamond><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>Questions</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=130415711-24012003></SPAN><FONT face=Garamond> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Garamond><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>Question 1.  </SPAN>Is there anyone who develops such a project? </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1><FONT size=3></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Garamond> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Garamond><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>Question 2.  </SPAN><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>Does this sound </SPAN><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>as an</SPAN> interesting idea for anyone to pick up?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=1></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Garamond><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>-joe</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Garamond><SPAN class=130415711-24012003>Filippov Evgenii</SPAN></FONT></DIV></FONT></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>