<HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: [JDEV] jabber server+client as a single mutiprotocol IM application</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> Joe, Networks that run in a ‘fractal’ mode have advantages – it I often desirable for a sub network to appear as a single client to the outside world (i.e. a local/private server connecting via c2s to the public servers). Thus the idea is interesting to me. Last year I formed a drag and drop jabberd on Mac OSX 10.1.5 (using the BSD Unix version) in jabberd 1.4.2 form. It is not a big task on OSX to have the client kick off the jabberd, thus providing a shrink-wrapped single icon implementation. Not sure how this would work in Wintel environments. Tim On 24/01/2003 12:22 pm, "Евгений Филиппов" <joxy2000@mail.ru> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE>I had a thought: a jabber server + jabber client packaged into a single installer could be used as a convinient multiprotocol IM client. I.e., both the j server & j client will run on the same localhost. They may even be compiled into a single executable.   Rationales Rationale 1.  I find it difficult to find a working gateway server e.g. for icq, aim, msn, yahoo. So the main point is that the local gateways to these services will work much better, since the localhost does have a very little load.  Here, i mostly speak about free gateway servers for icq, aim, yahoo. They are sometimes unstable, overloaded, slow, etc. The local system might represent a more attractive choice.  Additionally, the local server will not become banned by AOL and other companies. Rationale 2.  The system will be much less distributed, and, therefore, much more stable.   Possible implementation details The local jabber server does not have to use jabber s2s, it may have a special transport for c2s to public jabber servers & services.   Any local jabber server configuration tasks that are too advanced and/or not useful in the normal circumstances can be done at compile time and/or automatically at runtime, such that the enduser will never be able to get to these handles.   Questions   Question 1.  Is there anyone who develops such a project?   Question 2.  Does this sound as an interesting idea for anyone to pick up? -joe Filippov Evgenii </BLOCKQUOTE> </BODY> </HTML>