Hi Chris, See the answer of Colin Holywell" , author of ColinJabber client to me. "BusinessChat is violating the GNU General Public Licescene.  I am in Canada here and for some reason I can not reach that website?  What they are doing is illegal.  I have been getting lots of email about it but I have never seen the website or the messenger." So ur view of "There's really only so many ways to make a client look (WinJab looks like Exodus looks like Yahoo IM, etc). So with bchat's "Business Chat" IM looking like ColinJab that doesn't automatically mean that they copied it. Maybe they copied the look of it, who knows. " is not correct. Bye  jdev-request@jabber.org wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> Message: 15 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:00:03 -0700 From: Chris Wilkes <CWILKES-JABBER@LADRO.COM> To: jdev@jabber.org Subject: Re: [JDEV] Regarding the GPL and commercial products Reply-To: jdev@jabber.org On Fri, Sep 20, 2002 at 08:35:28AM -0700, SARADHI wrote: > > Can the application that results from the additions or modifications > can be sold as a Commercial Product and still mentioning the users > that we r using Jabber open standard technology ??? I believe that anyone can take the GPLed code, add their mods, and then resell it *provided that they provide the source code to it*. Kinda like RedHat does with its linux distro. Not that you insinuated that this is the case, but it should be pointed out that the FAQ point for Jabber licensing: http://www.jabber.org/faq.html#AEN59 makes it clear that 'jabber' is a protocol standard, like http, and you can make a proprietary client all you want, like the IE browser. There's another question in Saradhi's post and that is "GPLing" the look and feel of a client. There's really only so many ways to make a client look (WinJab looks like Exodus looks like Yahoo IM, etc). So with bchat's "Business Chat" IM looking like ColinJab that doesn't automatically mean that they copied it. Maybe they copied the look of it, who knows. It would be interesting to see if an author of a GPLed work can force someone to reveal their source code (didn't this happen with a DVD player recently?) Chris --__--__-- _______________________________________________ jdev mailing list jdev@jabber.org http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev End of jdev Digest</BLOCKQUOTE> U.V.N.PARDHA SARADHI Success is not the key to happiness. Happiness is the key to success. If you love what you are doing, you will be successful <hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!? New <a href="http://rd.yahoo.com/evt=1207/*http://sbc.yahoo.com/">DSL Internet Access</a> from SBC & Yahoo!</a>