<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=770330612-25042001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The ICQ patch is rather trivial if you look at the code.  But I don't want to imply that it was a trivial effort on Brian's part.  In fact, I applaud him for getting it to work with ICQ.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=770330612-25042001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=770330612-25042001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I haven't seen yet if Brian was able to integrate the openH323 stack within SpeakFreely.  I should think that if you wanted to do voice chat, you might prefer to use a standards-based solution (although I'm not sure how long H323 is going to be around, it is here now and there has been momentum).  </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=770330612-25042001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=770330612-25042001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><recipe for=disaster></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=770330612-25042001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>It is fairly easy to write a simple new VoIP client with the openH323 code (if you are a C++ programmer) and create you own "endpoint" (an H323 term).  There  are sample applications in the openH323 distribution. The code is ported to a variety of OS's </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=770330612-25042001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=770330612-25042001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>However, the BIG issue is that the software creates TCP and UDP connections so it has a need to get the IP address of the destination.  But I don't see that as a problem either (with a little code).  If the client requests a voice chat, the other client must "accept the call".  When the other client accepts the call, he/she/it should send its IP address back.  Now what will happen is a direct connect call  between the clients -- no server in the loop.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=770330612-25042001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=770330612-25042001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>IF that Jabber client mod can be accomplished, I think you could wrap a system call around their simpleH323 program and pass it the right parameters without having to write any new code (from an H323 standpoint).  And you can do video chat as well :-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=770330612-25042001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></recipe></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=770330612-25042001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=770330612-25042001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>David</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> jdev-admin@jabber.org [mailto:jdev-admin@jabber.org]<B>On Behalf Of</B> Michael J. Emswiler<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 24, 2001 11:00 PM<BR><B>To:</B> jdev@jabber.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JDEV] voice chat ...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wow -- I've been out of pocket for almost 3 months now ...  and I really enjoyed the .NET distraction, er, discussion ... too bad I missed it ... anyway:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I too was looking for some Open Source voice support and ran across Speak Freely ... last I read he (Brian Wiles) was working on consolidating the Unix and Windows GUI into a single source base using wxWindows.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyone have any experience with this?  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My first thoughts (but I haven't delved into it as of yet) is that it would have to be chopped up pretty good to replace it's current connection system with, say, a Jabber Client and an OOB ... but I know he has an ICQ patch so it might not be so bad</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>MikeE</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=csk_13@hotmail.com href="mailto:csk_13@hotmail.com">saw keong</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jdev@jabber.org href="mailto:jdev@jabber.org">jdev@jabber.org</A> ; <A title=nneul@umr.edu href="mailto:nneul@umr.edu">nneul@umr.edu</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 10, 2001 10:25 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [JDEV] voice chat ...</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hello ...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>i got your email from JDEV discussion , </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>from your discussion , i've read about hearme.com that provide open sourse . can you give me the address of this site because i'm trying to develop a voice chat applet ...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>thanks for you help .. i really appreciate it </FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>