<BODY STYLE="font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>I am interested in server-side groups also -- I think this is vital for corporate intranet support.  Though you may not want your contact list updated each time a new employee comes aboard (say in the case of IBM), you might very well want this in the case of Mom & Pop's Ice Cream Company.  You may not need full-blown group support in the server, perhaps a user could set a "subscription" to the entire server and receive a request from the server to add the new user to the existing user's roster...once again, for small intranets only, I don't want a subscription on a million-user+ internet server!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>It is also useful in many other contexts as well.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV> <DIV>Another interesting idea would be the idea of "shared" rosters -- which i suppose could be implemented with server-side groups, though there could also be an interesting client-side version</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; FONT-COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> Peter Saint-Andre</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 13, 2000 9:47 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> jdev@jabber.org</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JDEV] Automatically add all users?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Steve,<BR><BR>What you're talking about is really server-side groups as opposed to the<BR>client-side groups that you'll find in the current crop of clients and the<BR>current server. A fair number of people are interested in this functionality<BR>and I believe that Jabber.com has implemented this for one or two of their<BR>clients. A natural integration would be with LDAP or another db that has<BR>concepts of groups and sub-groups -- I'm part of my project team which by<BR>definition is part of my department which by default is part of the IT<BR>group, etc. I'm not sure of the status of such functionality (mainly whether<BR>it is part of the upcoming 1.2 server), but it makes obvious sense for<BR>intranets like yours (not nearly so much for the open internet, where I<BR>don't want anyone adding me to some group without my permission). If you'd<BR>like I can check on when this might be an integral part of Jabber instead of<BR>something that sysadmins need to hack together ... much as I love sed and<BR>awk :)<BR><BR>Peter<BR><BR>--<BR>Peter Saint-Andre<BR>stpeter@jabber.org<BR><BR>"Orion (Steve Pirk)" wrote:<BR><BR>> I am running a intranet jabber server at work. I currently<BR>> maintain a list of users (in html) where people can find<BR>> users to add to their list. The editing of the html page is<BR>> done manually now, but could be automated nightly.<BR>><BR>> This still requires that users manually add contacts. What<BR>> I was thinking of doing was to run through the jspool directory<BR>> and build a contact list from all the user.xml files, and then<BR>> have a program edit everyone's contact list to add all users.<BR>><BR>> Then as people create accounts, this would trigger another edit<BR>> (late at night) to stuff just that user into everyone's contact<BR>> list. I would most likely use awk or sed.<BR>><BR>> Can anyone think if an easier way to do this? Maybe as adminstrator,<BR>> run a script of jabber commands to update contact lists?<BR>><BR>> Is this even desirable? A lot of users would lkike the list populated<BR>> automatically...<BR>><BR>> Steve<BR>> orion@deathcon.com - owner/admin       |            Chaos reigns within.<BR>> http://www.deathcon.com                |    Reflect, repent, and reboot.<BR>> Think of it as evolution in action.    |             Order shall return.<BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> jdev mailing list<BR>> jdev@jabber.org<BR>> http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>jdev mailing list<BR>jdev@jabber.org<BR>http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev<BR> <DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY><DIV><BR>___________________________________________________________<BR>Get more from your time online. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com</DIV>