[jdev] The `XMPP as a social network` idea

[Steffen Larsen]

Hi,

XMPP and social networks were quite heavily discussed at this summit - and I think that people are investing quite some time in it.
  
As I see it BuddyCloud and Jappix are quite active and are viable solutions. Because some components in BuddyCloud are written in java in doesn’t make it insecure. In fact I can only say that the JRE is insecure, making statements like Java (JVM) is insecure is a bit bold - and also I think that BuddyCloud only uses Java on their component and REST endpoints - not in the UI, which prob. is done in Javascript / HTML5 (But I’ll let Simon Tennant answer that one to be 100% sure). I would personally use BuddyCloud and extend it to your own purpose and needs. 

/Steffen

> On 08 Feb 2015, at 20:10, stefan <sk at synergysky.com> wrote:
> 
> Welcome, h8h or for short: 'troll', to jdev!
> I am truly sorry but my mother forbids me to feed you.
> Have a nice day!
> 
> /Stefan
> 
> On 2015-02-08 18:16, h8h at dev-nu11.de wrote:
>> Hi there
>> 
>> What happened with the `XMPP as a social network` idea? I would love to see a social network build on XMPP soon. There are a few projects yet:
>> * Jappix: Runs very well, but its a bit ugly / complicated for new users and the theme is outdated (in my opinion) [1].
>> * Movim: Not so kick-ass as they described. Crashs very often (on my own box) and there is no `easy` option to let (new) user register on my own xmpp server [2].
>> * Onesocialweb is dead [3].
>> * Social Stream: The last commit was at Jun 5, 2014. And its written in ruby [4].
>> * Buddycloud is nice, but its written in Java and Java has many security risks [5].
>> 
>> So is `XMPP as a social network` a misuse of the xmpp `standard` / basic idea?
>> 
>> Because I'm going to write an open-source social network based on XMPP (mostly pubsub). Maybe in a nicer language (i.e. javascript /php (file upload and so on) / python (django)  ). It should have an activity flow, like Social Stream [4], a Chat (w OTR support), like converse.js [6] and thats all for now. It should be very basic and secure and more suitable for people with less xmpp experience. That means, simple login / user creation, simple posting (w maybe like / dislike) and post reading (activity flow), chat w/o otr.
>> 
>> I don't know why the other projects are dead or `not working well` so I hope you folks can give me tricks, hints & pitfalls if I should / shouldn't launch the new project I mentioned above.
>> 
>> Thanks so far for your thoughts.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Christian Homeyer
>> 
>> [1] https://github.com/jappix/jappix
>> [2] https://launchpad.net/movim
>> [3] http://onesocialweb.org/ / https://twitter.com/OneSocialWeb
>> [4] https://github.com/ging/social_stream/
>> [5] https://github.com/buddycloud
>> [6] https://github.com/jcbrand/converse.js
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