[jdev] obtaining XMPP accounts
Peter Saint-Andre
stpeter at stpeter.im
Tue Dec 8 21:04:02 UTC 2015
On 12/8/15 2:01 PM, Dave Cridland wrote:
>
>
> On 8 December 2015 at 20:53, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im
> <mailto:stpeter at stpeter.im>> wrote:
>
> On 12/8/15 1:07 PM, Dave Cridland wrote:
>
> Certainly I do have the feeling that as an
> end user, obtaining an XMPP account is now very hard, with the
> effective
> closure of end-user services from jabber.org <http://jabber.org>
> <http://jabber.org> (the
> obvious go-to public server) and the dropping of XMPP by Google
> Talk -
>
>
> I'm not sure I'd say "very hard" - there are still plenty of servers
> listed at xmpp.net <http://xmpp.net>. Could it be easier? Probably.
> It might be good to have a page about that at the new xmpp.org
> <http://xmpp.org> website.
>
>
> By comparison to ${ARBITRARY_IM_SERVICE}, yes, I think it is very hard.
> Our on-boarding process is nothing like as easy as the somewhat
> commonplace "Download app, run app, do some registration dance" -
> instead it's "Download app, go to some website, go to some other website
> and try to figure out how to create an account, configure app."
>
> It was better - for the user - when XEP-0077 was commonplace, since at
> least a client should ship with a list of servers. Of course, that level
> of simplicity brought its own problems, but I think we could make that
> process a lot smoother without compromising security entirely.
Ah, I see what you're saying. Yes, I completely agree.
It would be great to figure out a better onboarding process and I know
that Matthew Wild was thinking about that but I don't know if he got to
the point of writing code...
Peter
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