[jdev] obtaining XMPP accounts

[Peter Saint-Andre]

On 12/8/15 2:01 PM, Dave Cridland wrote:
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> On 8 December 2015 at 20:53, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im
> <mailto:stpeter at stpeter.im>> wrote:
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>     On 12/8/15 1:07 PM, Dave Cridland wrote:
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>         Certainly I do have the feeling that as an
>         end user, obtaining an XMPP account is now very hard, with the
>         effective
>         closure of end-user services from jabber.org <http://jabber.org>
>         <http://jabber.org> (the
>         obvious go-to public server) and the dropping of XMPP by Google
>         Talk -
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>     I'm not sure I'd say "very hard" - there are still plenty of servers
>     listed at xmpp.net <http://xmpp.net>. Could it be easier? Probably.
>     It might be good to have a page about that at the new xmpp.org
>     <http://xmpp.org> website.
>
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> By comparison to ${ARBITRARY_IM_SERVICE}, yes, I think it is very hard.
> Our on-boarding process is nothing like as easy as the somewhat
> commonplace "Download app, run app, do some registration dance" -
> instead it's "Download app, go to some website, go to some other website
> and try to figure out how to create an account, configure app."
>
> It was better - for the user - when XEP-0077 was commonplace, since at
> least a client should ship with a list of servers. Of course, that level
> of simplicity brought its own problems, but I think we could make that
> process a lot smoother without compromising security entirely.

Ah, I see what you're saying. Yes, I completely agree.

It would be great to figure out a better onboarding process and I know 
that Matthew Wild was thinking about that but I don't know if he got to 
the point of writing code...

Peter