[jdev] JDev Digest, Vol 110, Issue 2
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> 1. MUC question on Multi-session Nick (Daniel Dormont)
> 2. Re: MUC question on Multi-session Nick (Kevin Smith)
> 3. Re: MUC question on Multi-session Nick (Daniel Dormont)
> 4. Re: MUC question on Multi-session Nick (Daniel Dormont)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:30:10 -0500
> From: Daniel Dormont <dan at greywallsoftware.com>
> To: "Jabber/XMPP software development list" <jdev at jabber.org>
> Subject: [jdev] MUC question on Multi-session Nick
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> Hi all,
>
> I have a question about the expected behavior of multi-session nicks
> in a semi-anonymous room. Specifically, if user A joins a room where
> user B is already present with two sessions sharing the same nick,
> user A will only see this nick once in the list of presences sent when
> they join. But if user B leaves the room in only one of their
> sessions, that unavailable presence is still broadcast to the room and
> A sees it. Is there a way in this case for A to know that B is still
> in the room (but only from one session, now)?
>
> thanks,
> Dan
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 15:32:57 +0000
> From: Kevin Smith <kevin at kismith.co.uk>
> To: "Jabber/XMPP software development list" <jdev at jabber.org>
> Subject: Re: [jdev] MUC question on Multi-session Nick
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> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Daniel Dormont <dan at greywallsoftware.com>
> wrote:
> > I have a question about the expected behavior of multi-session nicks
> > in a semi-anonymous room. Specifically, if user A joins a room where
> > user B is already present with two sessions sharing the same nick,
> > user A will only see this nick once in the list of presences sent when
> > they join. But if user B leaves the room in only one of their
> > sessions, that unavailable presence is still broadcast to the room and
> > A sees it. Is there a way in this case for A to know that B is still
> > in the room (but only from one session, now)?
>
> Multi-session, as currently specced, works transparently - you don't
> know that there are multiple sessions associated with someone else's
> nick, and you don't see them leave the room until their last session
> leaves.
>
> /K
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 10:42:08 -0500
> From: Daniel Dormont <dan at greywallsoftware.com>
> To: kevin at kismith.co.uk, "Jabber/XMPP software development list"
> <jdev at jabber.org>
> Subject: Re: [jdev] MUC question on Multi-session Nick
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> Thanks, that's what I thought. In my current implementation (an
> admittedly slightly hacked ejabberd-2.1.10) I'm not seeing that - the
> other occupants are seeing the broadcast right away. Ok, I'll see what
> I can figure out from the code.
>
> dan
>
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Kevin Smith <kevin at kismith.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Daniel Dormont <dan at greywallsoftware.com> wrote:
> >> I have a question about the expected behavior of multi-session nicks
> >> in a semi-anonymous room. Specifically, if user A joins a room where
> >> user B is already present with two sessions sharing the same nick,
> >> user A will only see this nick once in the list of presences sent when
> >> they join. But if user B leaves the room in only one of their
> >> sessions, that unavailable presence is still broadcast to the room and
> >> A sees it. Is there a way in this case for A to know that B is still
> >> in the room (but only from one session, now)?
> >
> > Multi-session, as currently specced, works transparently - you don't
> > know that there are multiple sessions associated with someone else's
> > nick, and you don't see them leave the room until their last session
> > leaves.
> >
> > /K
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 11:51:49 -0500
> From: Daniel Dormont <dan at greywallsoftware.com>
> To: kevin at kismith.co.uk, "Jabber/XMPP software development list"
> <jdev at jabber.org>
> Subject: Re: [jdev] MUC question on Multi-session Nick
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> Turned out this was my fault on the client side. When leaving a room I
> was sending the presence to the room's bare JID and ignoring the nick.
> A closer reread of XEP-0045 based on this thread pointed me in the
> right direction :)
>
> dan
>
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Daniel Dormont
> <dan at greywallsoftware.com> wrote:
> > Thanks, that's what I thought. In my current implementation (an
> > admittedly slightly hacked ejabberd-2.1.10) I'm not seeing that - the
> > other occupants are seeing the broadcast right away. Ok, I'll see what
> > I can figure out from the code.
> >
> > dan
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Kevin Smith <kevin at kismith.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Daniel Dormont <dan at greywallsoftware.com> wrote:
> >>> I have a question about the expected behavior of multi-session nicks
> >>> in a semi-anonymous room. Specifically, if user A joins a room where
> >>> user B is already present with two sessions sharing the same nick,
> >>> user A will only see this nick once in the list of presences sent when
> >>> they join. But if user B leaves the room in only one of their
> >>> sessions, that unavailable presence is still broadcast to the room and
> >>> A sees it. Is there a way in this case for A to know that B is still
> >>> in the room (but only from one session, now)?
> >>
> >> Multi-session, as currently specced, works transparently - you don't
> >> know that there are multiple sessions associated with someone else's
> >> nick, and you don't see them leave the room until their last session
> >> leaves.
> >>
> >> /K
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