[jdev] Google App Engine will support XMPP

[Sylvain Hellegouarch]

Political reasons are one thing, technical reasons are another. Polling
usually sucks but I'd say HTTP is easier to leverage than XMPP within
current social network infrastructure (and you don't always need polling
when do things right between web services). It could be due to a lack of
expertise, broken XMPP implementations, misunderstanding of the protocol,
lack of deployment tools, etc.

So yeah I'm being prudent because Google hasn't delivered much of what one
could have hoped with their Google Talk network which is basically only
IM/MUC. If this announcement means only support for IM, and even worse if
it means only on their network, then I would say it's not delivering.

In any case, I cannot really parse what Joe has in mind when he says
"Support for sending and receiving XMPP (Jabber) messages". It's rather
loose. Mind you, Joe is sensible enough to indicate we shouldn't hold our
breath for those features anyway.

- Sylvain

PS: Nathan, great talk at Fosdem BTW ;)

> Track was actually their scaling problem. The reason to get rid of
> xmpp was more likely political and technical expertise problems from
> what I've heard.
>
> -Nathan Fritz (cellphone)
>
> On Feb 11, 2009, at 9:20 PM, Jonathan Dickinson <jonathan.dickinson at k2.com
>  > wrote:
>
>> Twitter actually used to support XMPP. Since they have 'lost' the
>> server I haven't really had the motivation to use their service.
>>
>> And they thought XMPP was their load problem? *cough* polling *cough*.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jdev-bounces at jabber.org [mailto:jdev-bounces at jabber.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Sylvain Hellegouarch
>>> Sent: 11 February 2009 09:33 PM
>>> To: Jabber/XMPP software development list
>>> Subject: Re: [jdev] Google App Engine will support XMPP
>>>
>>> Indeed. Besides we've heard other large companies *cough* Facebook,
>>> Twitter *cough* saying they would support XMPP before.
>>>
>>> On this one I'd rather be prudent.
>>>
>>> - Sylvain
>>>
>>> Nathan Fritz a écrit :
>>>> When Google says XMPP, they usually just mean GTalk.  There was a
>>>> similar disappointment with Android.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 2:14 AM, Remko Tronçon <remko at el-tramo.be
>>>> <mailto:remko at el-tramo.be>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>    Always nice to hear:
>>>>    http://googleappengine.blogspot.com/2009/02/roadmap-update.html
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