[jdev] Options for Production/Industry quality sdk orframeworkfor - implementing a client -

[JD Conley]

In the chat room scenario you could use private messaging.

You could send a message that is not of type groupchat to the full JID
of the room user for your ACKS: room at conference.example.com/usernickname
Then the whole room would not see all of them. If you had a generic ACK
mechanism using message stanzas this should work without modification,
since that is the from address on the groupchat messages you receive.

-JD Conley 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jdev-bounces at jabber.org 
> [mailto:jdev-bounces at jabber.org] On Behalf Of Dwarapudi, Vijay
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:29 AM
> To: Jabber software development list
> Subject: RE: [jdev] Options for Production/Industry quality 
> sdk orframeworkfor - implementing a client -
> 
> IP delivery - and retransmit is handled within network 
> layers, based on
> the protocol you pick, this isolates me from worrying about packets.
> 
> In the same way, I was wondering if I could not worry about loosing
> packets at the application level... and XMPP would worry 
> about any lost
> packets, over a series of routing hops, or something like that....
> 
> Right now I have begun implementing an application level Ack back, and
> another for receiving/tracking the ack as well.
> 
> But the question arises - if X clients (a set of clients) were
> publishing to a room, and Y clients (another set of clients) were
> listening/subscribing from that room; then the clients on side X would
> have to send back (application level) acks to the specific 
> clients on Y.
> Now the clients on Y have to track/account for who received 
> on X, and in
> (some hypothetical) case one of them did not receive it... then they
> would resend through the chat room (in my scenario). 
> 
> Now, if I am not mistaken - this creates a feedback loop 
> where all the X
> clients get the same packet, retransmit another ack for the same
> packet... and so on and so forth... plus everyone sees ack packets in
> the chat room.
> 
> Vijay
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jdev-bounces at jabber.org [mailto:jdev-bounces at jabber.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:11 PM
> To: jdev at jabber.org
> Subject: Re: [jdev] Options for Production/Industry quality sdk or
> frameworkfor - implementing a client -
> 
> On 15 Mar 2006, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> >> * Maybe a built in extension for guaranteed delivery, since I could
> >> locate a JEP extension for this.
> >
> > I may write a JEP about this soon (an extension to JEP-0079).
> 
> Wow! It sounds great! :-D
> 
> > But different people mean different things by "guaranteed delivery".
> :-)
> 
> Well, what do you mean by "guaranteed delivery"?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> -- 
>     Igor Goryachev              E-Mail/Jabber: igor at goryachev.org
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