[jdev] Re: Re: Gtalk implements jep-0136; any implementations for the rest of us?

Samuel Goto samuelgoto at gmail.com
Tue Feb 14 05:52:08 CST 2006


Jon,

        Did you implement in gtalk the external component protocol JEP ?
Does gtalk accepts external components bindings ?

        cya, mel


On 2/7/06, Jon Perlow <perlow at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am a developer on Google Talk and Gmail. We are working on a JEP
> proposal and will send it out soon.
>
> -Jon
>
> On 2/7/06, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at jabber.org> wrote:
> >
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> > Remko Troncon wrote:
> > >> Not sure at all; it just looks vaguely like 0136 since it's
> > >> server-side, and it's possible for a client to disable the logging.
> > >
> > > Well, it's not JEP-136 :-) All the client can do is enable/disable it,
> > but
> > > the server does all the logging itself. This way, no matter what
> > client you
> > > use to connect, your conversations gets logged, and you don't need to
> > send your
> > > conversations over the wire twice either.
> > >
> > > I like this idea actually, because it falls under the 'keep the client
> > simple'
> > > principle. It's a lot easier than having to deal with concurrency,
> > finding out
> > > which conversations belong together, submitting them to the server.
> > It's safer
> > > as well (what if your connection or your client dies, and you didn't
> > have a
> > > chance to commit your whole conversation), and it's incremental (a
> > client needs
> > > to keep track of the whole conversation before it can submit it)
> >
> > Yes, I chatted with one of the Google guys recently about this feature
> > (which is why I asked about server-side JEP-0136 stuff a week or two
> > ago). AFAIK this feature is something the client can enable or disable
> > on a per-contact basis ("don't log this conversation, please"). Also I
> > think this is something that would be supported (or not) by both servers
> > if the parties are on separate domains, so if I say "disable logging" my
> >
> > server would ask the other server to do the same. But I'll let the
> > Google guys describe it more, since I don't know all the details.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > - --
> > Peter Saint-Andre
> > Jabber Software Foundation
> > http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.shtml
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