[jdev] Re: Re: Gtalk implements jep-0136; any implementations for the rest of us?

Jon Perlow perlow at gmail.com
Tue Feb 7 13:04:24 CST 2006


Hi,

I am a developer on Google Talk and Gmail. We are working on a JEP proposal
and will send it out soon.

-Jon

On 2/7/06, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at jabber.org> wrote:
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> Remko Troncon wrote:
> >> Not sure at all; it just looks vaguely like 0136 since it's
> >> server-side, and it's possible for a client to disable the logging.
> >
> > Well, it's not JEP-136 :-) All the client can do is enable/disable it,
> but
> > the server does all the logging itself. This way, no matter what client
> you
> > use to connect, your conversations gets logged, and you don't need to
> send your
> > conversations over the wire twice either.
> >
> > I like this idea actually, because it falls under the 'keep the client
> simple'
> > principle. It's a lot easier than having to deal with concurrency,
> finding out
> > which conversations belong together, submitting them to the server. It's
> safer
> > as well (what if your connection or your client dies, and you didn't
> have a
> > chance to commit your whole conversation), and it's incremental (a
> client needs
> > to keep track of the whole conversation before it can submit it)
>
> Yes, I chatted with one of the Google guys recently about this feature
> (which is why I asked about server-side JEP-0136 stuff a week or two
> ago). AFAIK this feature is something the client can enable or disable
> on a per-contact basis ("don't log this conversation, please"). Also I
> think this is something that would be supported (or not) by both servers
> if the parties are on separate domains, so if I say "disable logging" my
> server would ask the other server to do the same. But I'll let the
> Google guys describe it more, since I don't know all the details.
>
> Peter
>
> - --
> Peter Saint-Andre
> Jabber Software Foundation
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