[jdev] XMPP Certification Opinion Poll

Natasha Live jabber.develop at ntlworld.com
Sat May 14 09:37:59 CDT 2005


Sorry for being slightly naive on this but, are you on about a Basic 
cert. based on compliance to the Core XMPP documents and then assigning 
extra points for additional JEPs covered?

All this phrasing of "levels of cert." leads me to think of something in 
the order of Bronze,Silver,Gold,Plat. certs.
Personaly I chose clients based on the fact that it covers my limited 
needs in a easy to use form. Now I know different people have different 
ideas of useable, so that's not something you can grade, but could you 
not just say that Client XYZ is 95% XMPP core + 100% JEP-12342223, 
JEP-2342345563 compliant.

So that's a certification for XMPP core + certs for each seperate JEP.  
A friendly table at this point would be good :)

So basic IM clients/libs/servers could get the certs that refrlect why 
they were created instead of being classed as inferior due to the fact 
that they do 1-2 things very well instead of 10 things done okay. Some 
of us like minimal software.

Natasha Live.

Hal Rottenberg wrote:

>On 5/13/05, Heiner Wolf <wolf at bluehands.de> wrote:
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>>It is true that users who hit jabber.org for the first time need
>>guidance. Most want a single simple download link. On the other hand
>>offering only one or two clients is unfair for the other developers.
>>Therefore we have a long list with the box at the top of the page as a
>>compromise. A certification makes it more fair, although probably not
>>better. A certification must not be easy to achieve. Otherwise we get a
>>large list of certified clients, servers, etc.
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>True.  This is why we would have multiple levels of certs.  Base is
>XMPP.  If someone is looking for file transfer support, that would
>mean a client certified at the "foo" level, and there would be fewer
>to choose from.
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>>I would probably not certify clients, but rather select distinguished
>>projects. At most one or two per category. I have no idea and even less
>>time to work on certification rules. This makes it difficult for me to
>>vote pro certification. But I would support some kind of selection of
>>distinguished projects.
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>That's exactly what the "Official JSF Project" idea is for.
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