[jdev] Re: IM history

[Shark]

Is QQ proprietary protocol derived from Jabber?
I remember there is also a Jabber derived protcol widely deployed in Hungary.

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:37:32 +0800, Cathayan <cathayan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, friends,
> 
> there is also a proprietary protocol - QQ, in China but not mentioned
> on wikipedia or anywhere else except chinese community. it is very
> successful in China and they said they have 350 million registered
> users till now. of course, many users have many id. anyway, they are
> the top 1 im service in China on a 87million internet users base.
> 
> QQ had been introduced to public on 1997 or so, with a name OpenICQ.
> and then, the isreal company ICQ gave them a lawyer letter, then they
> changed their name to QQ. Because ICQ and MSN don't have any chinese
> version clients for years, and also because china telecom charge
> different fees on demestic internet - which had been cheaper - and
> "foreign" internet(this policy is over now, but a simular policy is
> still exist on CERNET, which owns a big part of chinese internet
> users, college students.), QQ got a very success. and now, it has more
> features than MSN and many young people stick on it all day. in 2004,
> QQ got a income of 400million RMB - about 50million USD.
> 
> but along with it's success, the abuse became more severe. so, many
> people switch to MSN. and some linux guys to Jabber. but it is still
> the top 1.
> 
> some chinese internet portals have their own IMs, but not very
> successful. and tom.comannounced a cooperation with skype last 2
> months.
> 
> 
> On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:31:44 +0100, Jens Mikkelsen <gyldenskjold at mail.dk> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Thanks for the answers. Good thing I'm not working with MSN Messenger.
> > ;o)
> >
> > On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 15:23, Richard Dobson wrote:
> > > > There are other open IM protocols designed around SIP.  See for example
> > > > RFC3428 and SIMPLE
> > > > (http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/simple-charter.html).
> > > >
> > > > ICQ and AIM use an AOL proprietary protocol known as OSCAR.
> > > >
> > > > MSN Messenger uses a proprietary protocol known as MSNP.  However, Windows
> > > > Messenger uses SIMPLE.
> > >
> > > Actually Windows Messenger uses both MSNP and SIMPLE depending on who you
> > > are talking to, some older versions of Windows/MSN Messenger can also use
> > > RVP which is an old IM protocol used in Exchange 2000.
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > >
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