Anyone know whats up with myjabber.net - seem to be just getting unauth'd responses when logging in, and status.myjabber.net is a "welcome to apache" page ;p doh. -- Discouragement is a dissatisfaction with the past, a distaste for the present, and a distrust of the future - Maree De Jong, CLCA. Mark Derricutt --- mark@ talios.com --- http://www.talios.com