[jdev] Re: jdev Digest, Vol 5, Issue 16 - Co-existing Jabber1 & Jabber 2 on same Linux box

[Doug Byrd]

Will running both servers on the same box work?

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>    1. RE: email is a slum (Bob Wyman)
>    2. RE: email is a slum (Bob Wyman)
>    3. Re: Implementation of <history> portion of MUC spec (David Sutton)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 15:33:39 -0400
> From: "Bob Wyman" <bob at wyman.us>
> Subject: RE: [jdev] email is a slum
> To: "'Jabber software development list'" <jdev at jabber.org>,
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> JD Conley wrote:
> > A NNTP gateway/server with a PubSub interface sure would be nice.
> We currently serve the content of about 50,000 NNTP newsgroups[1]
> via Jabber/XMPP PubSub here at PubSub.com. (This is in addition to the
over
> 2 million blogs whose content we serve via the Jabber PubSub protocol.) In
> total, we're publishing a few million messages per day using JEP-0060...
> Our implementation of JEP-0060 is going to be pretty fluid over the
> next few weeks, but if you want to experiment with receiving data take a
> look at the rough notes on the first *very* pre-alpha implementation that
I
> put at:
> http://www.pubsub.com/bobwyman/pubsub_xmpp.html
> Note: Just about everything other than the actual published messages
> is going to be changed from what is in the document. We still don't
support
> subscribing via Jabber -- you have to use our website to do that. However,
> that will change very soon.
>
> bob wyman
>
> [1] Sorry... We filter out the pictures and other binary attachments...
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 15:42:09 -0400
> From: "Bob Wyman" <bob at wyman.us>
> Subject: RE: [jdev] email is a slum
> To: "'Jabber software development list'" <jdev at jabber.org>
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> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > I'm seriously wondering if we can do mailing
> > lists via pubsub. Email is a slum.
> It makes a great deal of sense to process new messages using pubsub,
> however, you really should provide some sort of message archive so that
> people can catch up on potentially very old discussions as well as access
> the conversation if they don't have a Jabber/pubsub client available. I
> strongly suggest that you consider using the Atom syndication format[1,2]
> for building such message archives.
> Mail is terribly overused since it is just about the only commonly
> available mechanism by which content can be "pushed" to some who has
> expressed an interest in receiving updates. My hope is that as PubSub
> becomes more well-known and popular that we'll be able to wean people from
> sending mail and have them use pubsub instead. Ideally, mail would return
to
> what it once was: A means for personal communication rather than a general
> content delivery mechanism... In the future, we'll hear people say and
> write: "Don't mail it! Publish it!"...
>
> bob wyman
>
> [1] http://www.mnot.net/drafts/draft-nottingham-atom-format-02.html
> [2] http://www.imc.org/atom-syntax/index.html
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:41:11 -0500
> From: David Sutton <jabber at dsutton.legend.uk.com>
> Subject: Re: [jdev] Implementation of <history> portion of MUC spec
> To: Jabber software development list <jdev at jabber.org>
> Message-ID: <40CC6787.7060705 at dsutton.legend.uk.com>
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> Hello all,
>
>    Due to personal reasons, I'm a little behind on some background work
> being done for MU-Conference. History is high on my list, however it is
> taking a large rewrite of the message storage/handler system which is
> why its been delayed - As soon as its implemented, i'll release v0.6.1
>
> Regards,
>
>    David
>
> Heiner Wolf wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > since you got no response yet on the list my rather weak comment: I
> > thought about the same some time a go and I think the feature could be
> > added quite easily to the open source.
> >
> > hw
> > --
> > Dr. Klaus H. Wolf
> > bluehands GmbH & Co.mmunication KG
> > http://www.bluehands.de/people/hw
> > +49 (0721) 16108 75
> > --
> > LLuna: Jabber enabled virtual presence on the web / http://www.lluna.de/
> > Galactic developments: Open source future history /
> > http://www.galactic-developments.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: jdev-bounces at jabber.org
> >>[mailto:jdev-bounces at jabber.org]On Behalf
> >>Of Kirschner, Larry
> >>Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 7:49 PM
> >>To: Jabber software development list
> >>Subject: [jdev] Implementation of <history> portion of MUC spec
> >>
> >>
> >>I'm running jabber1.4.3 with MUC0.6. For the application I'm
> >>working on,
> >>it would be better if the clients could avoid getting room
> >>histories by
> >>including <history maxchars="0"/> in their intial presence. It doesn't
> >>seem to me that this version of MUC supports that feature
> >>from the spec.
> >>Are there plans to add that feature to a coming release of the
> >>jabber.org MUC component? From what I can tell, there have been no new
> >>releases of that component in a while.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Larry Kirschner
> >>Senior Software Developer
> >>MTVi
> >>(212) 846-3481
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