[JDEV] Re: jabber; what would you like to see?

Ulrich B. Staudinger us at die-horde.de
Thu Sep 25 07:35:10 CDT 2003


Richard Dobson wrote:

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>From: "Ulrich B. Staudinger" <us at die-horde.de>
>To: <jdev at jabber.org>
>Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:05 PM
>Subject: Re: [JDEV] Re: jabber; what would you like to see?
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>>Richard Dobson wrote:
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>>>>What I picture is that one could have a scripting languague within the
>>>>packets, for example:
>>>>
>>>><iq type="get">
>>>><query xmlns="bla bla">
>>>><script>
>>>>@users=fetchroster(1,2,3);
>>>>for ($i=0; $i<$@#users) {
>>>>  echo "<message to=@user[$i]> In my new roster bla bla ";
>>>>}
>>>>createrostergroup(@users, "newrostergroup");
>>>>return @users;
>>>></script>
>>>></query>
>>>></iq>
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>>>Sorry but to me anyone doing something like this should be shot, having
>>>scripting send inside packets to be processed by the endpoint like this
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>is a
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>>>security hole of an enormous magnetude, and we definately should not be
>>>doing anything like this. This is kind of like word macros, it can have
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>some
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>>>benefits but the potential for abuse is massive, it would require all
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>sorts
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>>>of extra security stuff to even attempt to secure it. Overall I think the
>>>downsides are far more than the benefit of the convenience, the best
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>thing
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>>>is to continue doing what we have been doing and creating protocols for
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>set
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>>>purposes. We don't need the flexibility of a scripting system as we
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>already
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>>>have the flexibility/extensibility of XML and the jabber protocol to do
>>>things like this without creating massive security holes.
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>>Maybe not shot - only dipped into cold coffee for more than an hour ...
>>+1 - absolutely not supportable from my side.
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>Yea sorry, "... should be shot" is a common saying over here in the UK
>meaning that something someone has done is very bad/silly, its a tongue in
>cheek thing.
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i guess i should get familiar with all those sayings ... tongue in 
cheek? now what's this, where should i put my tongue?  :-)

np

ulrich

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