[JDEV] Promiscuous presence for user communities (with patch)

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Wed Oct 1 13:30:57 CDT 2003


Naturally it would help if I finally got around to writing a developer
guide! So I certainly don't blame Steven. Preparations are under way for
working on more documentation.

Peter

On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 05:19:43PM +0100, Richard Dobson wrote:
> > As to making changes to the Jabber protocol, I don't understand all the
> > concern. I agree that it is always best to try to work within a protocol,
> > but I thought that part of the point of open source software is that you
> > could modify it "willy nilly" to meet your own needs. Generally not
> advised,
> > but sometimes the only option. I don't think that Steven posted this as a
> > protocol change, but simply as a solution to this problem for other people
> > like myself trying to do the same thing.
> 
> The point I think he was trying to make was that some of the suggested best
> solutions were infact potensially dangerous to the rest of the community
> because they broke the existing protocol rather than using extablished
> methods of extension that would not have been any real problem.
> 
> e.g.
> 
> <presence type="promiscuous"/>
> 
> This breaks existing protocol and could cause problems if they come into
> contact with existing or future compliant implementations.
> 
> <presence>
>     <promiscuous xmlns="http://yourwebsite.com/jabber/promiscuous"/>
> </presence>
> 
> Whereas this uses the standard method of protocol extension and should not
> cause any problems when coming into contact with standard compliant
> implementations.
> 
> I think that the main problem is the seeming lack of caring and "willy
> nilly" approach that was used with creating the modification, which could
> cause problems for the greater Jabber community as a whole. If you work with
> us not against us I doubt you will have any problems and more importantly
> not cause the rest of us problems that we have to then clean up.
> 
> Richard
> 
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