[JDEV] Webpresence revisited [Was: JabberCentral]

[Richard Dobson]

Sorry but IMO that is a very bad way to implement it as it will generate a
lot of traffic as people will keep getting online and unavailable presence
notifications everytime the webpage is accessed which could really annoy
people (and IMO is an abuse), plus it will possibly create a high load on
the jabber server being used because of the constant log ons and log offs,
the only way it should ever be done is by a persistently running program so
that abusive presence traffic does not happen, e.g. Ralph Meijer's presence
bot available on his site which powers his world map
http://www.ralphm.net/?language=en, or my own one that powers my status on
my website.

Richard

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David 'TheRaven' Chisnall" <theraven at sucs.org>
To: <jdev at jabber.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JDEV] Webpresence revisited [Was: JabberCentral]


> I wrote a PHP presense icon script a year ago.  It required that the
> site had a jabber account (called 'WebPager' or something).  Each user
> that wanted to use it added that user to their roster, and it would log
> on, detect presence and log off whenever a page was loaded.  It could
> also parse the roster and send and receive messages, although the
> receiving component was not used for the presence, but rather to allow
> people behind firewalls to use a simple web interface.  I got distracted
> before I got around to deploying it, but I probably will this summer.
>  At that point I'll also open up the code, in case anyone wants it.  It
> implemented all of the functionality of the ICQ web pager (you could
> even use it as an ICQ web pager if you had the ICQ transport set up
> correctly...), and a few other bits.  The only server support it
> required was an account created for it to use, so it could use a public
> server if required.
>
> Richard Dobson wrote:
>
> >>Ages ago I wrote up a proposal to do this via a transport in JEP format
> >>(which Peter wouldn't accept despite my constant nagging) but I have had
> >>little feedback on it or seen any alternative ideas put forward:
> >>
> >>http://www.yabber.org/jep/webpresence/webpresence.xml (IE6 renders this
> >>
> >>
> >with
> >
> >
> >>the XSLT - not sure about other browsers)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Yea but that proposal made the assumption that every server would run a
> >presence component at a fixed address which is not really feasible in the
> >real world, and if it wasnt running at that fixed location it wouldnt
work,
> >which isnt really very good.
> >
> >
> >
> >>If we can get a Jabber icon to show up beside even a small fraction of
> >>
> >>
> >user
> >
> >
> >>posts on phpBB/phpNuke sites then it is going to drastically raise the
> >>awareness of Jabber on the web.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Yep I totally agree, but it doesnt look good if you method was used and
half
> >of the presence indicators have broken images ;)
> >
> >Richard
> >
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