[JDEV] JabberCentral [Was: Trillian Poll]

[aliban at gmx.net]

On 15 Jun 2003 at 21:00, Michael Brown wrote:

> From: "Peter Saint-Andre"
> > On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 10:50:06AM -0500, Thomas Muldowney wrote:
> > > I think this is a sign of a larger end user problem.  We have no site
> > > that caters to end users...
> > > [Snip]
> >
> > I agree, much more is needed than just an easy user guide. If we really
> > want to reach the average IM user, we need an icq.com-style portal that
> > makes users happy by providing general-interest chatrooms, easy ways to
> > find like-minded users, fun little quizzes and polls, games, and all
> > that jazz. I don't think this is something that the JSF would excel at,
> > so I doubt that it's a good focus for the JSF. But I do think that this
> > would take Jabber to the next level. People are offering Jabber-based
> > consumer services (nioki.com, etc.), but there is no "human face" to the
> > Jabber movemement. All I know is, it will be a lot of work to create and
> > maintain such a service. :)
> 
> I find this list really frustrating at times.  We *had* a Jabber End User
> site that included polls, client reviews etc and was getting a great deal of
> hits - doesn't anyone remember Jabbercentral? - but someone *chough*you
> Peter*chough* insisted that it be closed down despite multiple offers to
> take over running it.  It was replaced but a small link saying "clients"
> somewhere on the left of the jabber.org site, and a page with a handful of
> clients and a line of yellow/grey stars.
> 
> Your average IM user is going to take one look at jabber.org, and go some
> place else.  Users don't care about server code, or developers, or the
> Jabber council, they just want to see pictures/screenshots of some clients,
> read some reviews, and download a client.
> 
> And for those advocating some sort of "Official" client, I would have to
> strongly disagree.  All that is going to do is create bad feeling among the
> other client developers, and we will end up with more dead client projects.
> What we need is an end user friendly site that reviews and rates clients, so
> that people can make an informed choice, and client developers can see how
> their software rates compared to the competition.  (Yes, like the
> Jabbercentral of old)
> 
> [Yes - I am having a bad day]
> 
> Michael.

jup, I fully agree,

Edrin