[JDEV] integrity messenger questions

[Peter Saint-Andre]

IIRC, the bot folks applied for a patent. There's a big difference between
applying and receiving. :)

Peter

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Peter Saint-Andre
Jabber Software Foundation
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On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Dave wrote:

> Well, if prior art didn't prevent that bot buddy company from getting
> patents on IM bots, what's to make us think Integrity Messenger won't
> be able to patent IM itself?
> 
> A tad paranoid, and borderline delusional,
>  - Dave
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:22:44PM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Tijl Houtbeckers wrote:
> > 
> > > And don't forget this part of their website:
> > > 
> > > http://www.integritymessenger.com/about.php
> > > 
> > > quote:
> > > "
> > > It is that desire that has propelled Integrity Messenger to strive for 
> > > excellence, and achieve industry first technologies never before seen 
> > > in an Instant Messaging solution. **Many of the technologies within the 
> > > Integrity Messenger are presently being filed for patent.** (my 
> > > emphasis) 
> > > 
> > > Integrity Messenger would like to thank The Jabber Foundation at this 
> > > time for allowing us to temporarily infrastructure our software on 
> > > their server solution while we prepare to launch our own XML/SIP based 
> > > server. Special thanks to David (the Founder) and Peter for their 
> > > invitation to join their network." 
> > 
> > Note that they consider Dave Smith to be the "Founder" of Jabber. I had
> > several long telephone conversations with these folks, and Dave joined me
> > on one of them. Somehow they got the notion that he founded Jabber. Not
> > sure how, though.
> > 
> > While I don't seek to minimize Justin's pain in dealing with these people,
> > I think it's important to understand that they are not a major threat to
> > the Jabber community. My strong impression from talking with them is that
> > they were incompetent, paranoid, and borderline delusional. Whether they
> > lack basic moral scruples or just don't know what they are doing, I'm not
> > sure (I tend toward the former but I like to give people the benefit of
> > the doubt). But I can tell you that their supposed patent applications
> > will not be successful if they are attempting to patent things related to
> > or based on Jabber -- the Jabber community possesses evidence of prior art
> > going back to at least the summer of 1999, and Integrity Messenger is a
> > much more recent creation.
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
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> > 
> > 
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