[JDEV] Re: theoretic-smtp, Ransom License, Jabber and GPL incompatibility

[Thomas Muldowney]

James Michael DuPont wrote:
> --- Michael Brown <michael at aurora.gen.nz> wrote:
> 
>><---snip--->
>>
>>>Perhaps here is a problem with JabberSMTP being on JabberStudio. I
>>
>>have
>>
>>>not thought so until now, but if it is decided Jabberstudio is only
>>
>>for
>>
>>>free software (as in liberty) and open source projects, I will
>>
>>certainly
>>
>>>remove it from there, since it is not yet those things (but will be
>>
>>soon).
> 
> The license prohibits the copying of the code longer than 30 days,
> that prohibts it from cvs.
> 
> 
>>I can't see why JS can't be a central place for Jabber projects of
>>varying
>>licenses.  
> 
> As long as they dont put everyone into a legal problem.
> 
> 
>>You are free to not use any particular code if you don't like the
> 
> terms.  
> Yes but the license covers the copying of it, not just the usage.
> 
> 
>>Or maybe do something constructive like rewriting it as a GPL
>>project rather than making comments about the age of the author. 
> 
> I dont mean it as an insult, I like Adam. Myself I am 26 :)
> 
> 
>>I agree that maybe the CVS might not be the best place for code that
>>is not
>>covered
>>under an "open" license (yet)
> 
> My problem is that I dont want to be responsable for deleting it,
> the cvs repository is a contradiction in terms. They have a copy,
> they are in violation.
> You have to be a bit consistent as as license author!
> 
> mike
> 
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Let me clarify my JS position on this.  The sourcecode for Adam's smtp 
transport should not be in there, it's not free (as in GPL free) or open 
source free, and if you look at it as a developer it hurts you in terms 
of what you can morally code.  JabberStudio will accept projects that 
are free but not open, but only for the web portion of the site, not for 
the cvs side.  Adam, I hate to say this, but you need to either remove 
the source or, have an appropiate license.  The CVS on JS will always be 
fully accessible by the public, and I make that very clear to people 
when I talk to them about adding projects (Granted, I'm not the only one 
that can add projects ;-]).

--temas