[JDEV] File transfers

[Mike Oliver]

I agree, the second transfer session is after the negotiation of if and how 
the transfer should occur and I think the actual out of band file transfer 
should be P2P and while I voted for FTP I was premature, as I would 
actually have to say I have always used HTTP for that but that is because I 
have used HTTP document management applications so it was already there.

At 07:53 AM 6/7/2002 +0200, you wrote:
>On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 12:28:00PM -0700, Mike Oliver wrote:
> >  I completely concur the Jabber clients can open a second
> > session for the file transfer,
>I agree
>
> > and the handshaking of "do you want it" "ok"
> > "send it"
>I don't agree. The handshaking should be done via jabber protocol.
>
> > but the question is what protocol to use for that file transfer
> > session.  I vote for FTP because the FTP libraries and tools are universal
> > and every language that a Jabber client or server has been built on will
> > have them and can easily be added.
>But FTP is a very broken protocol. It requires two connections, some
>undetermined ports open on firewall, and in active mode connections
>are initiated by the both sides. I think many firewall adminitrators
>hate FTP. Why should they hate jabber too?
>
> > You could even use the Jabber protocol to ask the other Jabber client what
> > ip address/port to use and if they support FTP, HTTP or JTP (aka new TP)
> > for file transfers and leave the server out of it.
>I think jabber shoudl be used for handshaking and choosing routes via
>some proxies (it may be needed for firewall traversal). Of course
>HTTP could be used for the actual transfer, but if the handshake is
>already done, so we really need any higher level protocol? Just a simple
>TCP stream should be enough.
>
>Greets,
>         Jacek
>
>PS.
>   Please, do cut the citations. We are talking about problems about
>   sending large files and generating such files at the same time :-)
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Michael Oliver
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